Fox Sues Dish Over Ad-Skipping Auto Hop

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Fox Sues Dish Over Ad-Skipping Auto Hop | TheWrap TV

Fox has sued Dish in the first first lawsuit -- but probably not the last -- over the satellite company's Auto Hop feature, which allows viewers to skip commercials when they watch previously aired shows.

"We were given no choice but to file suit against one of our largest distributors, Dish Network, because of their surprising move to market a product with the clear goal of violating copyrights and destroying the fundamental underpinnings of the broadcast television ecosystem," Fox said in a statement. "Their wrongheaded decision requires us to take swift action in order to aggressively defend the future of free, over-the-air television."

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With an honest judiciary, they would be laughed out of court. There's no difference between Dish skipping the commercials for the user, and the user skipping them themselves. Or for that matter, watching them but never using them to make a buying decision.
 
One of 4 lawsuits... Maybe more in future if they start doing it on other channels. I still think it is crap they can sue over something like this. The consumer already pays Dish network for something that is for free to people with antennas. Which they can set-up there own DVR's with windows media player etc. and skip commercials. My opinion to these broadcasters...get rid of commercials and implement them into the shows themselves. That way there is actually a half hour of tv per show rather then 18-20 minutes. This is the broadcasters own fault for being so pushy and greedy.
 
The broadcasters have deep pockets and political clout it'll be a tough battle for Dish to win.I hope they can but it will be an uphill climb.
 
Article got updated with more information:

Dish Sues Networks, Fox Sues Dish Over Ad-Skipping Auto Hop | TheWrap TV

Dish sued the big four television networks over its new ad-skipping Auto Hop feature Thursday, even as Fox filed the first network Auto Hop lawsuit against Dish.

Dish sought a federal court's "declaratory judgment on questions" related to the technology, which allows viewers to skip commercials when they watch previously aired shows. Fox, meanwhile, accused Dish of copyright violations.

"We were given no choice but to file suit against one of our largest distributors, Dish Network, because of their surprising move to market a product with the clear goal of violating copyrights and destroying the fundamental underpinnings of the broadcast television ecosystem," Fox said in a statement. "Their wrongheaded decision requires us to take swift action in order to aggressively defend the future of free, over-the-air television."

Dish sued Fox, NBC, ABC and CBS in the United States District Court, Southern District of New York. Fox sued Dish in the Central District of California.

Dish contends that the Auto Hop technology is not much different than fast forwarding. With the touch of a button, viewers can decide not to watch the ads on recorded shows that aired the day before.

"Consumers should be able to fairly choose for themselves what they do and do not
want to watch," David Shull, Dish senior vice president of programming, said in a statement. "Viewers have been skipping commercials since the advent of the remote control; we are giving them a feature they want and that gives them more control."

But networks made their distate for Auto Hop very clear at last week's upfront presentation to advertisers, where they suggested it was a threat to ad-supported television. In an interview with TheWrap, CBS CEO Leslie Moonves called Auto Hop "illegal" and said CBS's lawyers were looking into it. He stopped short of saying the network would sue.

In its lawsuit, Fox says Dish's "PrimeTime Anytime" service -- which includes the Auto Hop feature -- is a "bootleg broadcast video-on-demand service" that "makes an unauthorized copy of the entire primetime broadcast for all four major networks every night." (It does indeed record all the network shows, though Dish would take issue with the "unauthorized copy" language.)

"To make matters worse," the lawsuit says, Dish allows customers to view the shows commercial free. The service makes the shows available for eight days.

Fox says in the suit that it cannot afford to produce hit shows like "Glee," and "The Simpsons" without ad revenues. That voices a complaint by Moonves, who said last week, "How am I going to produce 'CSI' for $4 million without ads? I can't do that. I can't give the audience that kind of quality."

Prior to Thursday's dueling lawsuits, three networks -- CBS, Fox and NBC ­ -- rejected ads for the
Hopper Whole-Home DVR, the device that features the PrimeTime Anywhwere service and AutoHop function.
 
No matter what the outcome, it's a win for Dish. They get a ton of publicity now. The fact the law suits are out there and public gives them cover if they have to pull the feature later. Dish generally looks good fighting "for the users" vs the "evil" networks.
 
SO...you think Dish will get to let users keep using this feature for the next decade that it will take to complete all the court cases and the dozen follow-up appeals?
 
JM42 said:
No matter what the outcome, it's a win for Dish. They get a ton of publicity now. The fact the law suits are out there and public gives them cover if they have to pull the feature later. Dish generally looks good fighting "for the users" vs the "evil" networks.

Bingo plus auto hop does not infringe on copyright it's no different then hitting the skip button as the commercials are preserved on the recording. It's not actually taking the ads out.
 
Yep Scott you beat me too it, just read that article and was like WHAT it don't delete. People need to at least get their facts straight. :rolleyes:
 

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