FSTV on G18 @ 123.0°W

[Babadem]

Using my DVB World 2104D USB, I'm able to lock on FSTV (Free Speech TV), but for some reason my AZBox Elite wouldn't even show any Q signal, and wouldn't lock it. Here are the parameters:

11830 V
1784 SR
DVB S-2 8PSK
FEC 3/4
Pilot =1 or 0*

* because I'm not sure, as i tried both and none worked.

I did post this in the WUT area sometime ago, but didn't get much response.
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[AcWxRadar]

Babadem,

I am able to pull in FSTV, but I am showing the following parameters:

SAT 123.0°W
TP 11830 MHz
SR 1784 KS/s
POL VERT
MOD DVB-S2/8psk
FEC 7/8
PILOT = 1 (on)

Then, in advanced SCAN under PID edit:
PCR 8190
VIDEO 101
Video Type H264
AUDIO 256
Audio Type MP2

SIGNAL QUALITY @ 78%

RADAR

 

[Babadem]

Babadem,

I am able to pull in FSTV, but I am showing the following parameters:

SAT 123.0°W
TP 11830 MHz
SR 1784 KS/s
POL VERT
MOD DVB-S2/8psk
FEC 7/8
PILOT = 1 (on)

Then, in advanced SCAN under PID edit:
PCR 8190
VIDEO 101
Video Type H264
AUDIO 256
Audio Type MP2

SIGNAL QUALITY @ 78%

RADAR

Thanks, RADAR! I will try using your settings when I get home. But, I wonder why with an FEC of 3/4, I'm able to lock onto FSTV using my DVB World 2104D USB....

 

[AcWxRadar]

I blind scanned the sat and that is the FEC that the AZBox wanted to log it in as. I didn't set it myself. So, maybe the AZBox is more particular about the FEC than the 2104D is. Either that, or it is simply being stubborn about that channel.

RADAR

 

[Keith Brannen]

I blind scanned the sat and that is the FEC that the AZBox wanted to log it in as. I didn't set it myself. So, maybe the AZBox is more particular about the FEC than the 2104D is. Either that, or it is simply being stubborn about that channel.

RADAR

Just out of curiosity, what FEC rate does Montana PBS scan in for you? Every listing I have seen has Montana PBS at a FEC of 2/3, yet my AZBox scans it in as 1/2. If I manual delete the transponder (or even just edit the FEC rate) and re-enter it as 2/3, the channel still scans in!

 

[AcWxRadar]

Just out of curiosity, what FEC rate does Montana PBS scan in for you? Every listing I have seen has Montana PBS at a FEC of 2/3, yet my AZBox scans it in as 1/2. If I manual delete the transponder (or even just edit the FEC rate) and re-enter it as 2/3, the channel still scans in!

I have the MT PBS scanned in at 2/3 FEC with my AZBox. Again, this TP / CH scanned in that way for me, I did not enter it manually. Sp it picked it up on its own.

RADAR

 

[Keith Brannen]

I have the MT PBS scanned in at 2/3 FEC with my AZBox. Again, this TP / CH scanned in that way for me, I did not enter it manually. Sp it picked it up on its own.

RADAR

Interesting, wonder why mine picked 1/2 (and I have deleted it and then blind scanned it again, several times, actually!). If I change it to 2/3 and re-scan the channel it is fine. It seems a bit more stable and seems to last a bit longer when it starts to fall towards its dropout level, but that could just be wishful thinking.

 

[Babadem]

Thanks, RADAR! I will try using your settings when I get home. But, I wonder why with an FEC of 3/4, I'm able to lock onto FSTV using my DVB World 2104D USB....

I blind scanned the sat and that is the FEC that the AZBox wanted to log it in as. I didn't set it myself. So, maybe the AZBox is more particular about the FEC than the 2104D is. Either that, or it is simply being stubborn about that channel.

RADAR

For some reason, I still can't get it to lock on AZBox Elite.

 

[comfrey]

You're not alone I have an Elite with the latest firmware and I can't seem to lock it either. (1.2m dish)

For some reason, I still can't get it to lock on AZBox Elite.

 

[AcWxRadar]

123.0°W Galaxy 18 other TP signals

Just curious, what is the signal quality on the other TPs that you detect on 123W?

Below are the TPs that I currently (as of 05/05/2011) am detecting signal from. Not all of them have FTA channels scanned in, but I detect the TPs at least.

11731 MHz HOR 13238 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 82% Q

11772 MHz VER 3361 KS/s DVB-S2/8PSK FEC 2/3 76% Q

11776MHz VER 2848 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 2/3 88% Q

11830 MHz VER 1784 KS/s DVB-S2/8PSK FEC 7/8 76% Q

11880 MHz VER 29997 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 5/6 84% Q

11943 MHz VER 1481 KS/S DVB-S/QPSK FEC 1/2 98% Q

11952 MHz VER 6669 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 1/2 68% Q

11965 MHz VER 1999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 94% Q

12005 MHz HOR 5999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 86% Q

12022 MHz HOR 9999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 5/6 76% Q

12077 MHz VER 3679 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 71% Q

12131 MHz HOR 13233 KS/S DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 72% Q

If you cannot detect all of these or your signal quality readings are extremely low, then maybe you are not quite in alignment with the sat?

RADAR

 

[Babadem]

Just curious, what is the signal quality on the other TPs that you detect on 123W?

Below are the TPs that I currently (as of 05/05/2011) am detecting signal from. Not all of them have FTA channels scanned in, but I detect the TPs at least.

11731 MHz HOR 13238 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 82% Q

11772 MHz VER 3361 KS/s DVB-S2/8PSK FEC 2/3 76% Q

11776MHz VER 2848 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 2/3 88% Q

11830 MHz VER 1784 KS/s DVB-S2/8PSK FEC 7/8 76% Q

11880 MHz VER 29997 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 5/6 84% Q

11943 MHz VER 1481 KS/S DVB-S/QPSK FEC 1/2 98% Q

11952 MHz VER 6669 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 1/2 68% Q

11965 MHz VER 1999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 94% Q

12005 MHz HOR 5999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 86% Q

12022 MHz HOR 9999 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 5/6 76% Q

12077 MHz VER 3679 KS/s DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 71% Q

12131 MHz HOR 13233 KS/S DVB-S/QPSK FEC 3/4 72% Q

If you cannot detect all of these or your signal quality readings are extremely low, then maybe you are not quite in alignment with the sat?

RADAR

I will use this as a guide when I get home tonight. Thanks!

 

[Dee_Ann]

If I may ask, what size dishes are you guys getting FSTV with?
I'm trying with a 1.2m dish and getting nothing.

Thanks!

 

[Keith Brannen]

If I may ask, what size dishes are you guys getting FSTV with?
I'm trying with a 1.2m dish and getting nothing.

Thanks!

I get it on an 80cm, but it is just barely above pixelation level on the AZBox. About a month ago it was around 80 (very good) but the last few weeks has collapsed and now hovers around 60 (pixelation starts when it drops into the mid-50's). It had dropped lower, but a little maintenance on the dish brought it up a bit.

Should note that FSTV moved back in June to 11840 V 1784, DVB-S2-8PSK, FEC 1/2, pilot 0 (off).

 

[Dee_Ann]

Thank you!

 

[rrob311]

ya that channel seems to have lost some power. I am no longer able to get it. I suppose I could try to realign the dish but it isn't very forgiving for the 3 footer. -Spoke too soon. I had it at 11842, I switched it to 11840 and the transponder locks but its at like 10-20% q on the openbox. Thats crazy how accurate the transponderfreq has to be to get this.

 

[Dee_Ann]

ya that channel seems to have lost some power. I am no longer able to get it. I suppose I could try to realign the dish but it isn't very forgiving for the 3 footer. -Spoke too soon. I had it at 11842, I switched it to 11840 and the transponder locks but its at like 10-20% q on the openbox. Thats crazy how accurate the transponderfreq has to be to get this.

I have it on a dedicated 1.2m Andrews dish and I can see the signal going up and down between 40% and 65% like a kid playing with a light switch. I had a LOT of trouble tuning it in and I had to readjust the dish several times. One problem I had was I had a brand new Chieta (sp?) switch on it and the signal was very weak. I took the switch out and replaced it with a cheapy 22k switch and the signal jumped back up to something usable.

Now I'm thinking of investing in a high quality LNB for that dish. Or maybe some kind of signal booster, if they make such a thing. I have seen them for OTA TV but that was like 20 years ago. I don't know if you can do that to a digital signal or not.

 

[hd fan]

yes you could but not necessary in most cases. For sat they are called in-line amplifiers but only use them if you have long cable runs, over 200 ft. First consider a bigger dish , then aim it properly, then use high quality LNB and Feedhorn hardware, then if using RG-11 is not an option or cost prohibitive then use an in-line amp. They probably cost around 20 usd only but like any other decive on the transmission line consider high quality but remember they also add a bit of noise therefore degrading the end CNR levels.

 

[Dee_Ann]

yes you could but not necessary in most cases. For sat they are called in-line amplifiers but only use them if you have long cable runs, over 200 ft. First consider a bigger dish , then aim it properly, then use high quality LNB and Feedhorn hardware, then if using RG-11 is not an option or cost prohibitive then use an in-line amp. They probably cost around 20 usd only but like any other decive on the transmission line consider high quality but remember they also add a bit of noise therefore degrading the end CNR levels.

Cool, thank you!