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Galaxy 4 communications after May 1998 (C-Band/Ku-Band)

Discussion in 'Free To Air (FTA) Discussion' started by JosephHolloway1998, Feb 10, 2019.

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  1. JosephHolloway1998

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    as the Galaxy 4 communications were shut down due to satellite failure in May 1998, what happened to the UPN/Paramount & Disney/Buena Vista TV wild feeds which had to move elsewhere? (on Telstar 4 & 5) and The WB/Warner Bros. wild feeds (which were on G4-TP7, TP9) that moved to Galaxy 6, Tp 7. The Galaxy 6 satellite was limited to C-Band viewers at the time and aside from KTLA/Los Angeles & WPIX/New York (S3R-15L, 15U), where would Ku-Band viewers watch WB programming at? and whatever happened to the "Nashville" stations package that was on Galaxy 4 Ku-Band? (WKRN (also carried as the PT24 east coast ABC affiliate on C-Band/DirecTV replacing WJLA Washington), WSMV, WTVF, WNPT, WZTV, WUPX, WNAB)
     
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    No offense, but does it matter what happened over 20 years ago and is it really deserving of documentation?
     
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    He's spamming the whole forum with this stuff. I can't even remember most of this, much less enough to give him all the info he's stumping for. I doubt very many others can either. Nobody ever tracked it back then, we just watched tv.

    Who cares what or who was where on what sat 20 years ago???

    OP, find some old Orbit or 'TV & Satellite Week' magazines somewhere, maybe Ebay and buy them. That's about your best bet, short of searching around the internet yourself.
     
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    Yes it does matter & it's really deserving of documentation, I'm a historian looking for stuff that was 20 years and older. But maybe you should try the web.archive.org page and see If they have a satellite chart for Ku-Band or for anyone that has a satellite chart. That's my suggestion! Well I'm not ready to buy the "Orbit" and "TV & Satellite Week" magazines yet! but still I'd want to know where the WB programming & affiliates were (besides KTLA/Los Angeles & WPIX/New York, both were owned by Tribune Broadcasting) on Ku-Band after the Galaxy 4 shutdown? (same goes with the "Nashville" stations package)
     
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    Well, I see no problem in asking if anybody remembers, but I highly suggest you keep your questions for that sort ALL in the same thread. Most people check for "New Posts" when coming to the site, so they'll notice when you ask a new question, or answer a question.

    Just be aware that most if not all of us, used the paper satellite magazines we bought off the newstands, or subscribed to have mailed to us back in the day. The internet just didn't exist, or people didn't use it like today. That or just searching around with the receivers, and watching what was there. We never expected questions 20 years later, and that stuff isn't all that memorable.
     
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    OK, But is there anyone in this thread that has a satellite chart for Ku-Band at the time?
     
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    If you can't see these links below, please temp disable your ad-blocker, and refresh. Perhaps you can find some of these in your library, or through an inter-library loan program:





     
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    In the mid to late 90's, I remember calling up one of the magazines to report wild feeds and new channels on C-band. Imagine the delay there was in getting that information out back then!

    IIRC, there was also a weekly radio program that discussed C-band news. The host and callers got really upset when DBS technology was announced. Personally I thought any satellite tech was interesting and I welcomed the chance to experiment with it.
     
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    As Primestar suggests, the paper guides were the medium of choice back in the day. There's a rather slim chance you could find some archives of FIDONET or Usenet that go back that far but I'm betting what you find will be incidental as most everything was plaintext back then.

    I'm not convinced by your line of reasoning that why the information is worth chasing after. There aren't many lessons to be learned from knowing all the specifics. Digital multiplexing and modern modulation schemes aren't going to be replaced with analog so the Physics or any of the commercial concerns simply don't apply now or in the future. It is also important to remember that most of the companies that did business back then are no longer around so there's really nobody to compare the environment to.

    History is useful if there's something to be learned and in this case, it appears that the primary byproduct is probably little more than answers to trivia questions.
     
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    Sorry JoshHolloway1998 but the only person who might know is a former member FaT Air and he is now dead... Communication satellites have life spans and old satellites are retired and new satellites are blasted into orbit all the time. As old satellites die or new satellites are born satellite feeds are shifted from satellite to satellite all the time. Satellite technology has also changed since 1998 as things were just changing from analog to digital to HD and now to 4K. What does it matter what satellite WB/Warner Bro's or Direct TV were broadcasted from over 20 years ago? Who knows, maybe you figured out a way to post a message on this 2019 satellite guys internet forum page from the year 1998 and are just looking for internet feeds. If this is true you should also be asking for someone to post the powerball lottery results from 1998/1999 and you could make yourself a millionaire. Let me know :) I will post them for you and you could make a small $1000 investment in Amazon in my name in 1998 that I can cash in sometime in 2020.
     
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    That's a Back to the Future mindbender right there :biggrin2
     
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    Heck, just keeping up with all the satellite moves just RTN/RTV (Retro Television, Luken) has made in the last 13~ years could fill a book...
     
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    I recall the satellite failing... Does that count for anything! ;)

    Any satellite magazine with a schedule was tossed into the kindling box when the new issue arrived around 19 years and 366 days ago! :biggrin
     
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    Now that I call it blast from the past!!:biggrin
     
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    The only feeds I wish I could find from those lists were the "In-Store Network" audio feeds on C-band. I used to listen to those a lot. The little mom and pop grocery store in town used to have a C-band dish out back and they played those same stations. Last I recall they were on S1, but these 1996 lists show S1 as already succeeded by S2 and S3.

    Edit: found it. In the 1996 chart Brct203 posted. Spacenet 3R TP 17.
     
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    Anybody know what became of the feeds listed for TP 24 on 87 W? These were the ones I mentioned in Post #17

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    Well, I think America One was the video channel on that TP, and the in-store audio stations were sub-carriers. Those audio channels are what I'm curious about...
     
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