Hawaii HD Mapdown Glitches (1 Viewer)

djmaui

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Nearly all the Hawaii HD content is mapped down now. Here are the exceptions & problems:
311 MAX-W (Mapdown does not work and 55** number only shows mapdown info page, so Cinemax is completely lost until mapdown is fixed) :(
303 HBO-W (Mapdown does not work but original 55** number still does)
5500 HDTHR (No mapdown provided yet)
5570 CMDY (No mapdown provided yet)
5597 SPEED (No mapdown provided yet)

Once these 5 channels are done, all the Hawaii HD will be found on the low range. This will make things much easier for low-tech consumers and give a big break to the installers and dealers that are helping their customers sort out the transition to mapdowns. :)
 

g182237

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Have you had any problems with NFL Network HD on ch. 154? From time to time, when I tune to 154 it says the satellite signal was lost. When I turn to ch 5507, the feed is fine. By the way, I live on Oahu.
 

djmaui

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Have you had any problems with NFL Network HD on ch. 154? From time to time, when I tune to 154 it says the satellite signal was lost. When I turn to ch 5507, the feed is fine. By the way, I live on Oahu.

I'm on Maui. I haven't watched NFL lately, so I'm no help to you in that regard.

I included the mapdown glitch info in an online tech chat which triggered a report to the engineering department on the problem. Hopefully we can at least get Cinemax back soon.
 

Mr Tony

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The AK & Hawaii HD channels are in the 5500 range (the ones on the spotbeams)...they remap to the "legit" channels that are in the SD range
 

djmaui

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doh! (Should have exercised my brain cells a bit harder there.)

What does:
only shows mapdown info page
mean?

Mike in Alaska

Hey guys, What I meant by "mapdown info page" is a screen that tells you where to find about 8 or so HD channels at their new mapped down channel number locations. Not much fun to watch. Cinemax is a heck of a lot more fun.
 

djmaui

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so its just a slate that says "tune to channel ___________" ?

I just want to see that I'm understanding this right

Yup, the guide for channel 5566 MAX-W says "Press info for important news" and when you select that channel, you get a screen that says "As of 12/16 watch your favorite networks at their new channel locations:

DISE at ch. 172, FXNWS at ch. 205, MAX W at ch. 311, HGTV at ch. 112, etc. (similar info for 10 channels on this one screen)

DVR users remember to set your timers.

There is a background music track as well, but I'd still rather watch Cinemax (if I could).
 

fbbonline

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Nearly all the Hawaii HD content is mapped down now. Here are the exceptions & problems:
311 MAX-W (Mapdown does not work and 55** number only shows mapdown info page, so Cinemax is completely lost until mapdown is fixed) :(
303 HBO-W (Mapdown does not work but original 55** number still does)
5500 HDTHR (No mapdown provided yet)
5570 CMDY (No mapdown provided yet)
5597 SPEED (No mapdown provided yet)

Once these 5 channels are done, all the Hawaii HD will be found on the low range. This will make things much easier for low-tech consumers and give a big break to the installers and dealers that are helping their customers sort out the transition to mapdowns. :)

I haven't checked since I don't use the mapdowns, but are the HD locals mapped down as well?
 

djmaui

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I haven't checked since I don't use the mapdowns, but are the HD locals mapped down as well?

No Hawaii Local HD mapdowns yet. Here's what they could be mapped to:

5655 KITV (ABC) (4)
5659 KGMB (CBS) (9)
5663 KHNL (NBC) (8)
5667 KHON (FOX) (2)
5671 KFVE (MY) (5)
5674 KHET (PBS) (11)

BTW, It is interesting that we are currently getting these local HD channels via the e*10 spot 47 tp 23 at 110, but they are all mirrored and listed active with the same channel numbers on the ceil-2 spot 55 tp 16 at 129. Go figger.
:confused:
 

Mr Tony

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I dont see any HD channels for Hawaii Spotbeam on 110. They're on 129

Possibly Dish has the ones on 110 for folks who have JUST HD locals (no other HD programming)...dont know why folks would do that ;)
 

djmaui

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I dont see any HD channels for Hawaii Spotbeam on 110. They're on 129

Possibly Dish has the ones on 110 for folks who have JUST HD locals (no other HD programming)...dont know why folks would do that ;)

They are at both locations and my 722 pulls in the 110 spot ones (tp 23), not 129. There are actually 18 total duplicate channels between 129 spot and 110 conus/spot. (6 HD locals plus TNT, USA, SCYFY, ESPN, WGN, GREEN, CBS-C, ESPN2, ESNWS, TLC, TRV, TWC). That, plus 6 open slots on various tp's would provide enough space to give us all 11 missing HD premuims, PLDIA, FOXW and several more.

I wonder if Dish is setting Hawaii up for a 119/129 one-dish-for-all-HD-and-SD once the e*14 bird goes up. 40 HD channels on 129 spot (38 are already in use), up to 80 HD channels on two 119 spots, and all SD plus program guide on 119 conus. With all that, they wouldn't need 110 for Hawaii anymore, other than specialty stuff like internationals, etc. There seems to be a problem coming up with a three-bird dish for Hawaii.
 

djmaui

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There are some HD on 110 CONUS as you noted so its available to everyone in Hawaii and on the mainland. The HD on 129W is on a spotbeam just for Hawaii. The only HD on 110 that is spotbeamed is the stuff for Alaska or Puerto Rico

This HD is spotbeamed to Hawaii
SatelliteGuys.US - Subscription 129°W

Hi Iceberg, I'll list this out to get it staight in my brain:

Of the 38 HD channels we get in Hawaii via spot 55 at 129 (Alaska gets the same ones on spot 1 via separate tp's except for locals), 15 are duplicates of 110 channels (11 on the 110 spot and 4 on 110 conus). 23 are unique to that spot.

Of the 29 HD channels we get in via spot 47 at 110 (Alaska gets the same ones on spot 46 via same tp's except for locals), 14 are duplicates of 110 conus and 129 spot channels (3 on 110 conus and 11 on 129 spot). 15 are unique to that spot.

Of the 15 HD channels we (and everyone else) get at 110 conus, 7 are duplicated on the 110 spot and 129 spot channels (3 on 110 spot and 4 on 129 spot). 8 are not duplicated on a spot.

Are there a bunch of folks in Alaska that get the 110 spot but don't get 110 conus? That could at least explain the three 110 spot dups of conus channels.

Hope I didn't just make this all even more confusing. ;)
 

Mr Tony

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Are there a bunch of folks in Alaska that get the 110 spot but don't get 110 conus? That could at least explain the three 110 spot dups of conus channels.

The main reason for the Alaska spotbeams is Alaska needs 6 foot dishes for 110 CONUS. The spotbeam stuff they can use a 24" dish or even a 30" dish
 

redsalmon

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The main reason for the Alaska spotbeams is Alaska needs 6 foot dishes for 110 CONUS. The spotbeam stuff they can use a 24" dish or even a 30" dish

Sorry Iceberg, but we only use a 30" dish for 110 here in southcentral AK, that is the Anchorage/Kenai Peninsula area, and we receive all the CONUS and spotbeamed channels. We use a 6' dish for 129, which also gives us the conus and spotbeamed channels. A 30" dish also works for 119.
 

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Alaska used to need the six foot dish for 110 to get the extra sports channels and a few other channels before it was upgraded.
 

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