HD Channels in Dish Family? (1 Viewer)

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Since football season is over, I downgraded to Dish Family. Now, I dont get the HD version of Fox News any more, just the SD. Is that normal, or should I call to have them fix it?
 

empiretc

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It should be illegal for providers to deny access to the HD counterpart of any channel in any packages. HD is the norm. Go to any store and try and get a new 4:3 SD TV. Can't wait..
 

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It should be illegal for providers to deny access to the HD counterpart of any channel in any packages. HD is the norm. Go to any store and try and get a new 4:3 SD TV. Can't wait..

Ehh as nice as that would be, I can't see that happening. There are still tons of SD TVs out there, and there are ways to still buy them. Believe it or not HD TV subscribers are still in the minority. Hell most of the old SD TVs will probably outlive our new HD TV sets. My grandmother had a console TV (those gigantic wooden ones) that lasted her 25 years before she finally got an HD TV. Granted, she had to hit the old one with a shoe every other day to make it work properly :D . She was amazed when she got her first HD TV. If she manages to keep the HD TV for longer than 6-10 years before it breaks she'll be lucky. I don't think any amount of shoe banging will fix it either if/when it goes lol.
 
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As I've said before sd TV's will be around long after most of us are pushing daisies.
 

empiretc

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Agreed. Some out there are bulletproof. However, looked at the ATSC conversion. In the future HD will be the norm and providers won't be able to nickel and dime us about it the way they do now.

They complain, but are no better than Disney.
 

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I am not going to dispute the SD TV longevity. However, virtually all over-the-air stations now must broadcast in digital which requires a digital conversion box. All televisions purchased today are HD. We have two HD TVs and two old SD TVs with digital converter boxes.

It is not only Dish who is inconsistent with HD/SD. Some local stations broadcast the SD signal in a letterbox format. On an SD television, there are black bars at the top and bottom. On an HD television, there are black bars on all four sides. Other stations broadcast the SD signal in a way that the left and right sides of the image are cut off. I still cannot figure out why some stations broadcast an SD signal when they claim to be HD. For example, our local PBS station will broadcast The This Old House Hour in HD on Thursday night on 39.1. Saturday morning, they split the hour into This Old House and Ask This Old House which are broadcast in SD on 39.1.

Our local Fox station broadcasts in 720p, but Dish gives us the SD version with the left/right sides cut off. Usually not a problem except when you are watching a baseball or football game and you can only read half the score.

I know bandwidth is an issue, but all other things being equal, it would make more sense to me for all stations to be broadcast in letterbox form. SD signals would have black bars at the top and bottom. Those with HD TV could zoom in on the SD image. HD broadcasts would fill the screen.
 

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Ok so the Government requires all OTA to be broadcast using a digital signal. Given the amount of SD programing I see I'm assuming the government doesn't require the actual programming to be HD.
It does aggrevate me when a nationally syndicated TV show is broadcast In 4:3, Dr. Oz comes to mind. Have no clue why it is not in 16:9 HD.
I have to admit as aggravating as it is changing the aspect would probanly distort the picture

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Dr.OZ is in HD. Maybe your affiliate isn't showing in HD but it is.

That is correct. Oz is in HD. It wasn't on my local affiliate for a while, I contacted them and asked why. They were unaware that it was an HD presentation. They immediately fixed it.
 

Mr Tony

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It does aggrevate me when a nationally syndicated TV show is broadcast In 4:3, Dr. Oz comes to mind. Have no clue why it is not in 16:9 HD.

for some smaller stations it is harder (or impossible) to capture the HD feed of a syndicated program. Syndicated programs are sent days in advance and at random times usually early morning for the station to grab the feed and get commercials inserted. When I had my C-Band (big dish) up I use to watch them all the time (still do once in a while). Always like watching Maury at 9PM instead of at noon on the local station :)

Anywho it does cost the affiliate more to take the HD feed so maybe they aren't paying for that feed. I know the one station I pick up (CBS main Fox subchannel) unless its a direct from the network it wont be in HD. They dont have the capability to do HD on non network programming
 

empiretc

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Beating a dead horse here......

joining in....

if anything, they should give the HD channels in the Welcome/Family pack to customers that own their equipment. Damn, if you buy all your equipment and install it yourself, WTH not-- they are not subsidizing you. would say it is the least they could do, but do not want to pose a challenge.
 

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Since football season is over, I downgraded to Dish Family. Now, I dont get the HD version of Fox News any more, just the SD. Is that normal, or should I call to have them fix it?
For $5 more you can have all HD, with "Dish America" you'll be missing some of the channels in the welcome pack(Outdoor, Hallmark,RFD) but what you do have will be HD :) also the Dish America doesn't require auto-pay paperless to have the HD
 

Mr Tony

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For $5 more you can have all HD, with "Dish America" you'll be missing some of the channels in the welcome pack(Outdoor, Hallmark,RFD) but what you do have will be HD :) also the Dish America doesn't require auto-pay paperless to have the HD

$10 ;)

Family Pack 24.99
Dish America 34.99
 
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