Hopper 3 HDMI CEC Issues? (1 Viewer)

man00

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My setup is Hooper 3 connected HDMI to Pioneer VSX-1131
Roku to Pioneer VSX-1131(HDMI)
TV Vizo P65-F1 connected to Pioneer VSX-1131 (HDMi)
CEC enabled on all devices
When I turn off everything with Hopper 3 remote about 10 seconds later al comes back on
TV, Pioneer VSX-1131..I can reset Hooper 3 and it will work about a day then starts all over again
Any better way to hook this up..never a issue with DTV
 

olds403

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My setup is Hooper 3 connected HDMI to Pioneer VSX-1131
Roku to Pioneer VSX-1131(HDMI)
TV Vizo P65-F1 connected to Pioneer VSX-1131 (HDMi)
CEC enabled on all devices
When I turn off everything with Hopper 3 remote about 10 seconds later al comes back on
TV, Pioneer VSX-1131..I can reset Hooper 3 and it will work about a day then starts all over again
Any better way to hook this up..never a issue with DTV
I despise CEC, I have it turned off in every component I own and use a Harmony remote to control everything in my living room/home theater system, I have it turned off in the bedrooms and use the Dish remotes to control the TVs and Joeys there. I feel the results with the Harmony remote are much more predictable than CEC.
 
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Altitudinous

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Any better way to hook this up..never a issue with DTV
You might want to try connecting:
Hopper to TV's HDMI input 1
Roku to TV's HDMI input 2
TV's optical or coax digital audio out to Pioneer input
Pioneer HDMI out to TV's HDMI-ARC input to handle additional video sources
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I have my setup this way:
Hopper to Roku TV HDMI 1
Fire Stick to Roku TV HDMI 2
TV's optical out to Denon AVR-640S receiver
Receiver's HDMI out to TV's HDMI-ARC input to handle additional video inputs such as a PC

When I push power button on 54.0 remote, Hopper stands by, TV turns off, receiver turns off via CEC. I think the feature is great.
 

man00

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So because I have Hopper 3 connected to Pioneer via HDMI ( to hdmi SAT) is the problem?
 

Altitudinous

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So because I have Hopper 3 connected to Pioneer via HDMI ( to hdmi SAT) is the problem?
I was suggesting an alternate connection configuration to try and see if it behaves the same way.

In the meantime, your manual talks about "HDMI Standby Through" which, if turned on, sounds like it could cause the Hopper standby screen to appear on the TV even after you think you've powered things including the Pioneer receiver off.

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I was suggesting an alternate connection configuration to try and see if it behaves the same way.

In the meantime, your manual talks about "HDMI Standby Through" which, if turned on, sounds like it could cause the Hopper standby screen to appear on the TV even after you think you've powered things including the Pioneer receiver off.

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Yeah I don't know who came up with standby. The first time I set up my Yamaha it was on by default. I thought the TV was off then I looked closer and it was on with a black screen. I could never think of a reason anyone would want that.

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Yeah I don't know who came up with standby. The first time I set up my Yamaha it was on by default. I thought the TV was off then I looked closer and it was on with a black screen. I could never think of a reason anyone would want that.

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Uhm, I don't mean to change the subject. But, Standby is basically a power-saving mode like Sleep mode on computers. Excellent idea if you consider the negative effects of turning off and on your tv so many times a day. Unfortunately, tv guides don't explain this enough. The confusion is perfectly understandable. Every night before I go to bed, I put my old laptop in standy (sleep mode), and the fan stops spinning, the screen goes black, and etc. It really extends the life expectancy of your electronics.
 

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Uhm, I don't mean to change the subject. But, Standby is basically a power-saving mode like Sleep mode on computers. Excellent idea if you consider the negative effects of turning off and on your tv so many times a day. Unfortunately, tv guides don't explain this enough. The confusion is perfectly understandable. Every night before I go to bed, I put my old laptop in standy (sleep mode), and the fan stops spinning, the screen goes black, and etc. It really extends the life expectancy of your electronics.
"HDMI Standby Through" actually allows signal throughput to the display when the AV reciever is in standby. I really don't see the point of it either as I use my AV Receiver all the time with my main system in the living room. I certainly wouldn't want my display to be on and showing the Dish standby screen when everything else was off.
 

man00

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I tried few different setups including ones posted here. My results were not so good, one device would work okay then other device wouldn't work..Either no audio, video or one powers off while other powers on. Just don't think the Hopper 3 remote gonna run my devices.
 

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Yeah I don't know who came up with standby. The first time I set up my Yamaha it was on by default. I thought the TV was off then I looked closer and it was on with a black screen. I could never think of a reason anyone would want that.

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It's very important to me.

My household has people working all hours, so it is very rare everybody is up and OK with having the full home theater (I call it "Big Speakers") on. So 95% of the time we listen to the TV speakers (or my wireless headphones) and don't turn the AV receiver on, so pass-through is a must. I had a Denon that the only way you could change inputs was by turning it on. My LG TV will not play through its own speakers if an AV receiver is on (thus killing my wireless headphones as well).

My newer Onkyo has the same feature I see from above. A setting where the standby mode can still change inputs, even if the receiver is not on. So to change from from, say, my Dish input on the AV receiver to my Firestick input, I DO NOT have to turn the AV receiver on. I simply pick up the receiver's remote and change the input without ever touching the "Power On" on the Onkyo.

I don't know if I explained it well, but it is a necessary feature for me.
 
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Both Olds403 and Eddie W have valid points, depending on how the system is set up. With some Internet search, u know exactly what the purpose is. The following was copied and pasted:
Leaving smart TVs in standby mode enables necessary software updates, and these modern designs only use minimal power. Similarly, some broadband routers need to be kept on 24/7 for overnight firmware updates and a more consistent performance.
 

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Both Olds403 and Eddie W have valid points, depending on how the system is set up. With some Internet search, u know exactly what the purpose is. The following was copied and pasted:
Leaving smart TVs in standby mode enables necessary software updates, and these modern designs only use minimal power. Similarly, some broadband routers need to be kept on 24/7 for overnight firmware updates and a more consistent performance.
You've all convinced me it has a use. I'm not convinced that turning modern electronics on and off is hard on them. It may have once been true. We just bought two new sets. But our old sets were 14 years old. We turned them on and off once at least once per day which is over 5000 times. The only reason we bought new is we upgraded, otherwise they worked fine.

My 75 inch makes a great deal of heat. What I don't know and so I don't believe, is that it doesn't take much electricity just because the screen is black. Maybe so, but again I have no data.

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