huskerhead said:
I'm a tech in Lincoln, NE and I'm calling for my upgrade the day it comes out. I also have a friend who has directv and hes switching the same day for a hopper and Joey setup.
Hopper vs direct tv
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I'm a tech in Lincoln, NE and I'm calling for my upgrade the day it comes out. I also have a friend who has directv and hes switching the same day for a hopper and Joey setup.
rickwhoo said:
One hopper can run 3 joeys. This gives you 4 hd tvs and 3 tuners. Or you could do 2 hoppers and 2 joeys if you want more recording at once, but 9 recordings at once is a bit much. I doubt 2 hoppers would be cost effective.
powerhouse1960 said:
It would be nice for 722s to cross communicate. I see this need a lot when I'm installing. I do assure you, 2 hoppers do cross communicate. Or you can isolate them so the hoppers can't see what the other is watching.
9 shows - 5 on non pta tuners + 4 pta.
Your focusing on the fact the Joeys don't have tuners, but to get the functionality I want (full trick play at each location) with Directv I would have to have an HR34 and then an additional DVR at each viewing location. I'd have twice the number of tuners, but would never need half (or more) of them. It would be two to three times the up front cost or more.
the ptat is only 3 hours a day, dont forget that part
granted that is when most people record
and they dvr at each location may be more upfront
but i still say the lack of joey tuner will cause some issues down the road
similar to the issue direct is having with people not realizing they need a dvr in the second location to pause/rewind
1hopper+2 joey will cause issues
mdram said:
It will b 9 recordings at once for 2 hoppers with 1 hopper doing ptat. 6 without ptat 4 recordings for ptat and 5 for the other 5 tuners.
You would only have one Hopper set-up for PTAT (no need to have both Hoppers doing this) . The other one would have all three of it's tuners available for other shows. That would give you a total of nine shows being recorded or watched at once.
Of course, I really only think of it as six, but even then it's more than I will need. PTA just takes it a step further.
That scenario is no worse than a current two location duodvr install. 1H+3J is more problematic, but Dish should start to push the second Hopper at that point. At the end of the day the customer has to take some responsibility for what they are signing up for, knowing their own viewing habits, and choosing an option that fits.
JM42 said:
This is the best post I've seen yet. As a technician, it is important for the customer to understand what they need and what they're getting. There is nothing more frustrating than a customer that doesn't know what they want or what they are getting.
Don't confuse PHY rates (in Mbps, not MBps) with data (MAC) rates. The practical top end of DECA is said to be 175Mbps.
The difference between DISH and DIRECTV setups is that DISH requires a client where DIRECTV support for clients (RVU) doesn't seem to be going very well. DIRECTV is using their proven, albeit less flexible, MRV configuration.
I have direct and the rvu is working great here
I believe he was referring to the non-existent RVU box that has been rumored, and not the miniscule list of RVU TVs out there.
I just got the HMC from Directv. Still trying to figure it out. I had DishNetwork before this. Does anyone know how large the hard drive is on the HMC?
i think that was still less hours of HD than the Hopper box though in real hours of recordings??
with the Hopper you have 500GB and 250 hours of HD (even though it's technically a 2Tb drive).
with the 1tb directv drive, how many hours is that allocated for space and hours?
sparc said:
Correct. Only 200 hours vs. the Hopper's 250.
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Which one has the better DVR? I had DishNetwork for years. I feel the DVR is smarter and much faster with DishNetwork. What does anyone who had both think?
