Install question....tipping?

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Tell me about it. The last two times my Hispanic neighbors cut through the coax in the ground for my internet cables I had the Spectrum Cable people come out and lay more coax and he would do that part but not dig the trench. He said someone else would come by in the week and do the trench. I ended up doing the trench myself both times because the neighbors couldn't mow their lot going to the canal behind our houses. The cable junction box is in their yard behind their house in the common utilities property. I didn't want to risk them cutting it again. It took a long time doing that in the heat of summer and we have clay soil that we call gumbo down here in southeast Texas. The crap sticks to your shovel and is hard to get out of the ground.
That is Very common ...
I have many years of laying cable to get a sub back in service and move on to the next ... we always have a buried contractor that comes along usually with in a few weeks (thier list piles up early from not being able to run the equipment in the winter, I know, down there its more than likely year round) any ways, most are happy to get back in service ... I have has customers ask if they could go ahead and bury the line, I always say Sure, we will still come out, but the person coming out will be happy when you already have it done ... and TY.
 
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Some of you guys are way too paranoid. Do you ever hire a kid to mow your lawn or paint a fence? Do you ever hire a young girl to babysit your kids? What about the paperboy who delivers your newspaper?
Id say your very naive then? Nothing to do with paranoid....Lots of great opinions on it...There is a reason we have child labor laws....but I also agree teaching in work ethic....A boy maybe more than a girl, depending on her size....This isnt a clear cut situation thats for sure
 
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Id say your very naive then? Nothing to do with paranoid....Lots of great opinions on it...There is a reason we have child labor laws....but I also agree teaching in work ethic....A boy maybe more than a girl, depending on her size....This isnt a clear cut situation thats for sure
This really comes down to, was this a Side Job (which I could understand the child helping out, or a Company that was doing the job, which the child should Not have been there.
 
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I cut my own lawn, I would never let someone babysit my kids that I didn’t personally know and who the hell gets newspapers anymore? There’s this new thing now called the Internet? Maybe you’ve heard of it? Lol
I know many seniors and disabled people that can't cut their lawn and hire kids.

So, if you personally know the babysitter how does that change your "age" issue?

Many seniors don't even own a computer and still read the newspaper.

You need to look at things from the perspective of others rather than just "me,me,me".
 
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I know many seniors and disabled people that can't cut their lawn and hire kids.

So, if you personally know the babysitter how does that change your "age" issue?

Many seniors don't even own a computer and still read the newspaper.

You need to look at things from the perspective of others rather than just "me,me,me".
I’ll tell you why, because the kid delivering the newspaper and the babysitter are not working around somebody on a ladder installing equipment overhead with power tools. And it’s not about me, me, me, it’s about rules. Dish Network would never advocate bringing a child to a job. No insured contractor would advocate bringing a child to a job site. Now, a sole owner operator Who is self assured and doesn’t have to answer to a higher authority, can probably get away with it.
 
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I’ll tell you why, because the kid delivering the newspaper and the babysitter are not working around somebody on a ladder installing equipment overhead with power tools. And it’s not about me, me, me, it’s about rules. Dish Network would never advocate bringing a child to a job. No insured contractor would advocate bringing a child to a job site. Now, a sole owner operator Who is self assured and doesn’t have to answer to a higher authority, can probably get away with it.
Oh No!! Not a ladder and power tools! What do think a lawn mower is?

Do you think the people working at Mcdonalds are all over 18? They work around fryers and ovens that could cause severe burns and fires. There might even be ladders there!

What about the kid at the filling station putting highly flammable gas in your car. Do you think everyone there is 18?
 
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Tip? That's the subject? Sure. More if the work done warrant's it. And if the tech far surpasses the previous hack work. Kind of like the dish a tech screwed to an old stump and then the ground heaved in the winter. Needing a re-aim.
Kids are great at digging holes. They live for it. But seriously. If its anything like I see the telephone or dish installer doing. Splitting the sod and tucking the cable under it aint quite like prepping for WW III.
Probably wouldn't condone a contractor for Dish bringing a non-employee for help. But hey, if Colleen wants to work a shovel for a few minutes. Cool.
For chrissakes. If my dad wouldn't have taken me to the hangar after school. I wouldn't have ever seen a B52 engine swap out. Did I get one dropped on me? I'm here.
Superstitions work. Don't walk under a ladder. Bad luck. Especially is the DeWalt ain't tethered to a safety cord.
"Whaddaya' think Colleen? Is the signal strong enough?"
"Daddy, I think it needs more skew. How strong are the verticals?"
Sheesh. You'd think kids never used to climb trees and play with firecrackers.
Much less have fingers enough to light the matches because of lack of common sense around contraptions like this:

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I cut my own lawn, I would never let someone babysit my kids that I didn’t personally know and who the hell gets newspapers anymore? There’s this new thing now called the Internet? Maybe you’ve heard of it? Lol
yea but we don't want our kids seeing some of those google images and some of those contraptions now :biggrin:oops::biggrin2
 
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All the times I did installs and they were really good ones, above and beyond work usually I hardly got tipped. People that I was doing installs for were lucky to have no holes in their floors. The ones that had to much money of course didn't tip either...it was always the mid class. Some older folk would give you canned beans or something stupid like cookies or whatever. I did have guys give me beer sometimes but I'd just accept and discard it down the road...can't trust that stuff. Cash is fine but again hardly saw it in the region I serviced.
 
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I’ll tell you why, because the kid delivering the newspaper and the babysitter are not working around somebody on a ladder installing equipment overhead with power tools. And it’s not about me, me, me, it’s about rules. Dish Network would never advocate bringing a child to a job. No insured contractor would advocate bringing a child to a job site. Now, a sole owner operator Who is self assured and doesn’t have to answer to a higher authority, can probably get away with it.

Self insured sole proprietor...that means they're coming after the customer's home owner's insurance.
 
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Oh No!! Not a ladder and power tools! What do think a lawn mower is?

Do you think the people working at Mcdonalds are all over 18? They work around fryers and ovens that could cause severe burns and fires. There might even be ladders there!

What about the kid at the filling station putting highly flammable gas in your car. Do you think everyone there is 18?
WOW ....
First, the lawn mower guy is not working aloft with tools ....
The kid putting highly flammable gas in your car, doesn't ....
Whens the last time you had a service attendant come out to fill your gas or check your oil, that ended 50 years ago.
 
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The Dish contractor subcontracted this local guy to do the final dish install. There were no ladders involved. The dish was being mounted in the ground and the cable was run to the existing grounding block on the house. I thought it was nice he brought his kid with him.

Oh, and I still get the newspaper. I am a relic.
 
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Oh No!! Not a ladder and power tools! What do think a lawn mower is?

Do you think the people working at Mcdonalds are all over 18? They work around fryers and ovens that could cause severe burns and fires. There might even be ladders there!

What about the kid at the filling station putting highly flammable gas in your car. Do you think everyone there is 18?
You live in a dream world where you're naive about how insurance works when it comes to contractors and homeowner liability.

"Kids" at fast food restaurants are trained to work around the equipment and there are no 12 year old's working at McDonalds. And there's probably less than .001% of gas stations where anyone other than the driver or passenger is filling a gas tank. Give it up, you're just clutching at straws and making yourself look like you're more concerned with winning an argument than you are accepting the truth
 
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All the times I did installs and they were really good ones, above and beyond work usually I hardly got tipped. People that I was doing installs for were lucky to have no holes in their floors. The ones that had to much money of course didn't tip either...it was always the mid class. Some older folk would give you canned beans or something stupid like cookies or whatever. I did have guys give me beer sometimes but I'd just accept and discard it down the road...can't trust that stuff. Cash is fine but again hardly saw it in the region I serviced.
Tips seem to come in waves. Like you, I go out of my way to do the very best work I can and as also mentioned, when I see "the last guy" left a nightmare, reinstall whatever I can to bring it up to my standards. Still, I can go weeks, even months without a tip and then suddenly, it seems like every other customer is offering a few bucks (or more) for a while. Ironically, the people who tip are not the ones you'd expect to and the people you'd feel are more likely to tip, never do - specifically higher income earners.
 
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WOW ....
First, the lawn mower guy is not working aloft with tools ....
The kid putting highly flammable gas in your car, doesn't ....
Whens the last time you had a service attendant come out to fill your gas or check your oil, that ended 50 years ago.
I know it's hard to believe but self service gas stations have been illegal in NJ since 1949 and in Oregon since 1951.
 
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You live in a dream world where you're naive about how insurance works when it comes to contractors and homeowner liability.

"Kids" at fast food restaurants are trained to work around the equipment and there are no 12 year old's working at McDonalds. And there's probably less than .001% of gas stations where anyone other than the driver or passenger is filling a gas tank. Give it up, you're just clutching at straws and making yourself look like you're more concerned with winning an argument than you are accepting the truth
My 14 year old niece works at Burger King. After I read your posts I immediately texted her and she assured me that she would stay away from any ladders at work. For the most part she was trained and is supervised by other kids, unlike the father who trained and supervises his daughter burying the cable.

The majority of gas stations here in Canada are hybrid, in that there are self serve pumps or attendants that will fill your car. Maybe things are different in the USA.
 
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Word to the wise: we are supposed to be talking about Dish equipment and services here, and not about each other!
 
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My 14 year old niece works at Burger King. After I read your posts I immediately texted her and she assured me that she would stay away from any ladders at work. For the most part she was trained and is supervised by other kids, unlike the father who trained and supervises his daughter burying the cable.

The majority of gas stations here in Canada are hybrid, in that there are self serve pumps or attendants that will fill your car. Maybe things are different in the USA.
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