Intelsat 903 at 34.5°W and Telstar 11N at 37.6°W (1 Viewer)

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Babadem

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I will be setting up my WSI 6ft bargain dish soon and would like to know what are the active transponders on 34.5°W and 37.6°W C-band to use in tuning the dish at either location.
 

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Do not waste your time. Those two lacation are pretty much useless. I have been there done that. I would aim it at NSS 806 @ 40.5W instead.
 

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For C-band, 37.5 is for the most part the furthest East you can go without switching to circular.
37.5 does have Metro Tv ITC from South Africa in English that is interesting.

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Babadem

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Do not waste your time. Those two lacation are pretty much useless. I have been there done that. I would aim it at NSS 806 @ 40.5W instead.
What kind of channels were you able to lock on 34.5°W and 37.5°W when you pointed to those locations? Any strong transponders come to mind for pointing the dish?
 

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For C-band, 37.5 is for the most part the furthest East you can go without switching to circular.
37.5 does have Metro Tv ITC from South Africa in English that is interesting.
I also saw SilverBird on Lyngsat as being in the clear in addition to Metro TV. What is a strong transponder on that bird? BTW, Metro TV is a Station from Ghana (West Africa), not South Africa.
 

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How did you make out on those eastern birds? I am in the process of setting up my 6 footer and wanted to point it at something strong. I am just north of you I think.
 

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I don't get it
My 10 foot dish have always gone from 139w - 55.5w on C band if that far.
I think I would need a Horizon to horizon dish too go any further west over the atlantic.
Any reason a FTA on C/KU can pick stations further west then we used too over 10 years ago? TT
 

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SilverBird and Metro TV are in the clear at 37.5 w, signal quality 82 with Openbox S10 on a 7.5 Unimash dish
 

Babadem

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How did you make out on those eastern birds? I am in the process of setting up my 6 footer and wanted to point it at something strong. I am just north of you I think.
Not set up yet. :( I have not been feeling well, but I will be setting it up as soon as I can, hopefully before it gets mad cold up here.
 

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SilverBird and Metro TV are in the clear at 37.5 w, signal quality 82 with Openbox S10 on a 7.5 Unimash dish

Thanks for the info. :D I should be in a better position to try the setup again starting next week or so.
 

Babadem

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I don't get it
My 10 foot dish have always gone from 139w - 55.5w on C band if that far.
I think I would need a Horizon to horizon dish too go any further west over the atlantic.
Any reason a FTA on C/KU can pick stations further west then we used too over 10 years ago? TT

Based on your location you should be going east.
 

Tottenville

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I was always told
As you go for the satellites in the atlantic you would need a 12 footer instead of a 10 footer.
The further you go the bigger dish you will need.
Still cannot unstand how people can pick up satellites at 33w with a 6 or 7 footerfooter?.........TT
 

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All depends on the footprint(where on the surface the satellite sends (focuses) its signal and the eirp. The Atlantic satellites actually aren't that much "further away". Lyngsat says: NSS 10 at 37.5°W(~10° above my eastern horizon) should get to me(~97°W) at 43-44dbw. Amazonas at 61°W with 35-36dbw. That is plenty. BTW, G 19, almost directly south, Lyngsat says it get's here with a 40.1-43.1dbw strength. Now, those levels may not be actual, and each TP can vary as the power is determined, set, at the uplink, but I think they can be considered "typical" maximums.
 

Tottenville

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Only thing I knew from the past (mid 80s early 90s}
A 6 or 7 footer is if you are in the middle of the states
a 10 - 12 footer if your on the east coast.
Sooo to me being from Northern Nj,It makes no sense in picking up anything
further then 53w with a 10 footer.........TT
 

FaT Air

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The satellites were a bit lower powered then, and the transmissions were almost all analog(the signal is spread across a whole 30mhz transponder). With digital transmission(which only use a portion of a 30mhz transponder) and error correcting algorithms, it's a new ballgame. In '90, I swung the 10 ft'r to look out over the Atlantic, and by golly, I was gettin' NTSC and PAL Gulf War feeds on a couple of satellites. A bit sparklie, but no worse than some domestic satellites at the time. Today I have I-805 at 55°W with studio quality video. BTW, it's the same dish in use today. I also have 30°W on a dedicated Ku dish. That one is only 6° above the horizon. The increase in distance is minimal, as a sat south of you is 22k miles out, Going to the horizon probably only adds another 1000. Just looked at dishpointer, 97°W, my south sat, is: Distance: 38212km, 30°W is: Distance: 40977km That's an increase of 2765 kilometers (1718 miles), basically negligible at a 7% increase in distance. Most satellites, c band, that can be seen in N.A. that are east of 55°W use circular polarization. Requires the dielectric in the feed throat or a circular polarization feed horn.
 

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With my 7.5 H-H the dish can track from 27.5w Int 907 to 135.0 w AMC 10, good signal on all satellites.
 

Tottenville

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i can get to 30w ku with my 90cm, my 10' will easily hit 55w using a 36" jack.


I agree,I have a 24 inch jack
and think you can only go so far,unless you have a horizon to horizon acuator.
I used to have a International feed that ADL or CalAmp used to make,but have no idea
where its at now...........TT
 

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For C-band, 37.5 is for the most part the furthest East you can go without switching to circular.
37.5 does have Metro Tv ITC from South Africa in English that is interesting.

3805 H 2143
I know it's been a while, ( I have set up the 6ft bargain dish and now trying to set up sat positions) can you confirm if those parameters you stated above are still active. I spent close to 2hrs this evening, but failed to lock on anything on 37.5°W. If anyone can confirm this or give me new frequencies, I will appreciate it.
 

Johnson114

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Babadem said:
I know it's been a while, ( I have set up the 6ft bargain dish and now trying to set up sat positions)
I will like to ask if you are able to get c band channels on 34.5w. I am thinking of getting a 6ft dish so that i can watch some Nigerian channels there.
 
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