Its Not Just Dish...

[Scott Greczkowski]

Now first off please understand I am not defending Dish on some of their receient programming changes...

I am posting this to show that the issues are not just limited to DISH.

Looks like in Southern California viewers will lose all DISNEY owned channels including ESPN.

Time Warner has launched a website explaining its view of things... Home | Roll Over or Get Tough

And Disney has responded with their own website I Have Choices - As fans of ESPN and ABC, you should know the facts

I do agree with Time Warner and am starting to wonder how much is too much. I know for myself I had to cut back my services and downgrade my programming package as it was getting too damn expensive...

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Sounds Exactly like your defending Dish.

If you weren't you would have never brought up the word Dish in this topic, or put it in the Dish network Forum.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Whats Funny is Time warner is obviously giving its customers over a months notice, How much notice did Dish Network customers get?

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

There is an ad on the radio at the moment for DISNEY letting subscribers of Brighthouse Networks knowing that soon channels like ESPN will not be available..

Now as far as defending DISH let me state I am 100% behind DISH on the Disney issue, no reason they should need to pay TWICE for the same channel...

However for the same reason I am upset at DISH removing FUSE and replacing it with Paladia and placing Paladia in AT200... but not making the HD version available if I want the HD version of the channel I need to pay $10 for the HD add on pack... Essentually making me as a AT250 subscriber pay TWICE for the same channel (Once in HD and once in SD!)

This is the same thing that they are against DISNEY doing to them... Yet for some reason they feel its ok to do it to us... and I got to admit I don't like that..

There you have it.

 

[powerhouse1960]

Whats Funny is Time warner is obviously giving its customers over a months notice, How much notice did Dish Network customers get?

That,s what bothers me the most. everybody has contract disagreements but you should value you customers and at least let them know whats going to happen.
Having said that my personal opinion is the programmers should only receive a minimal fee for there product after all they do sell advertising its not like a pay channel

 

[HDRoberts]

I heard and ad on the radio on the very subject this morning on my way to work.

 

[HDRoberts]

Whats Funny is Time warner is obviously giving its customers over a months notice, How much notice did Dish Network customers get?

Dish wanted to keep them on during negotiations. Sound like Dish didn't get much notice of them being pulled, either.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Now as far as defending DISH let me state I am 100% behind DISH on the Disney issue, no reason they should need to pay TWICE for the same channel...



There you have it.

That argument could go on all day.
No reason I should have to pay E* twice for the same channels.

No reason I should have to pay twice as much for addtional 722'
No reason I should have to pay to shipping twice on leased receivers.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Dish wanted to keep them on during negotiations. Sound like Dish didn't get much notice of them being pulled, either.

We don't know that.

ESPN I'm sure gave ample notice to Dish about their contracts.
Com'on this isn't a school snow day we are talking about.

Dish Also Owed ESPN money. So they knew they were going to be shut off if E* didn't pay.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

The fight on the HD channels with DISNEY appears to have been going on in court for awhile, however I am hearing that DISNEY gave DISH less then 24 hours notice they were pulling the HD feeds.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

That,s what bothers me the most. everybody has contract disagreements but you should value you customers and at least let them know whats going to happen.
Having said that my personal opinion is the programmers should only receive a minimal fee for there product after all they do sell advertising its not like a pay channel

Agree 100% with all of this.

 

[KAB]

We don't know that.

Exactly. Don't know if they did. Don't know if they didn't.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Exactly. Don't know if they did. Don't know if they didn't.

They might not have known about the DISNEY HD feeds, but they sure as hell knew they were dropping FUSE and didn't tell anyone about the change until the day they dropped it.

I don't like that.

 

[ekilgus]

I still say the retransmiters (Dish, Direct, Comcast, Time Warner, etc.) should come together for the purposes of negotiating new retransmission contracts. If they did this and no agreement was reached and the broadcaster pulled their programming, they would effectively be shutting themselves completely down. It's unlikely they would do this. As long as the broadcasters can target one retransmitter at a time, this nonsense will continue.

 

[mike123abc]

Too bad Dish cannot just take the HD version of the channels and drop the SD if Disney wants to charge as though they are separate channels.

 

[Scott Greczkowski]

Too bad Dish cannot just take the HD version of the channels and drop the SD if Disney wants to charge as though they are separate channels.

I am sure contracts prevent that from happening unfortunately.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Too bad Dish cannot just take the HD version of the channels and drop the SD if Disney wants to charge as though they are separate channels.

That would be worse I bet. Because all the SD customers wouldn't have Disney at all.
That would just benifit Dish into making customers upgrade.

But in the same sence hurt E* , since most customers would just switch to a provider that has the channels they want.

 

[mike123abc]

I am sure contracts prevent that from happening unfortunately.

I am sure they do prevent it. Or, Dish could just take the HD feed and down convert it for the SD customers.

What Dish should do for the HD customers is do a full bit rate MPEG-4 conversion of the SD channel. I bet many would think they go the HD version back (except for the aspect ratio). The C-Band version of SD looks very good.

 

[llzel]

Dish is all upset that they have to pay twice for the same channel, well don't we?
I pay for the 250 package but then if I want the HD version I have to give Charlie more $.
So here's my negotiations, Dish tell Disney you won't pay for the HD feed and if they agree Dish will stop double dipping, and not charge it's customers the HD fee.

 

[bobvick]

Sounds Exactly like your defending Dish.

If you weren't you would have never brought up the word Dish in this topic, or put it in the Dish network Forum.

If you have such a bone to pick with Dish Network, why are you hanging out and posting in the E* forum?



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk