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I never got the point of the Hopper Duo at all. It's like an old cable company DVR from the early 2000s. The marketing for the original Hopper promised to get rid of recording conflicts. The Hopper Duo pretty much guarantees them. And 500GB, really? :idea
It depends on what you record. If you mostly record from the four major networks (ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox) then the Hopper Duo does support recording those four channels on one tuner, just like the other Hoppers. I have not seen a cable company DVR from the early 2000s that can do that. The Hopper Duo simply lacks the automatic recording of PTAT and AutoHop that the other Hoppers have.
 
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I never got the point of the Hopper Duo at all. It's like an old cable company DVR from the early 2000s. The marketing for the original Hopper promised to get rid of recording conflicts. The Hopper Duo pretty much guarantees them. And 500GB, really? :idea
One thing about that 500GB. I read the compression is better so you get more recording time than on a VIP 500Gb
 
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One thing about that 500GB. I read the compression is better so you get more recording time than on a VIP 500Gb
That explains why my Hopper Duo is not filling up as fast as I might otherwise expect. That may also explain why the hard drive needs to be reformatted if you take the internal drive from a Hopper Duo and install it inside a ViP722k, or vice versa. (I had a purchased Hopper Duo fail for a different reason, so I salvaged the hard drive and used it to repair my old ViP722k.)
 
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That explains why my Hopper Duo is not filling up as fast as I might otherwise expect. That may also explain why the hard drive needs to be reformatted if you take the internal drive from a Hopper Duo and install it inside a ViP722k, or vice versa. (I had a purchased Hopper Duo fail for a different reason, so I salvaged the hard drive and used it to repair my old ViP722k.)
How do you have three Wallys (is that a word?) and a Hopper Duo?
 
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That explains why my Hopper Duo is not filling up as fast as I might otherwise expect. That may also explain why the hard drive needs to be reformatted if you take the internal drive from a Hopper Duo and install it inside a ViP722k, or vice versa. (I had a purchased Hopper Duo fail for a different reason, so I salvaged the hard drive and used it to repair my old ViP722k.)
I found the post on the tech portal

Because the Hopper Duo uses HEVC compression (more efficient than MPEG4) the 500 GB hard-drive can record up to 125 hrs in HD.
Even though the 722 has the same size hard-drive it has a lower HD recording capacity at 55 hrs.
 
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I found the post on the tech portal

Because the Hopper Duo uses HEVC compression (more efficient than MPEG4) the 500 GB hard-drive can record up to 125 hrs in HD.
Even though the 722 has the same size hard-drive it has a lower HD recording capacity at 55 hrs.
Does the Hopper 3 use the same compression?
 
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I found the post on the tech portal

Because the Hopper Duo uses HEVC compression (more efficient than MPEG4) the 500 GB hard-drive can record up to 125 hrs in HD.
Even though the 722 has the same size hard-drive it has a lower HD recording capacity at 55 hrs.

Wouldn't the Hopper Duo (and presumably the H3) have to get their signal from a different source to take advantage of the HEVC-compressed data stream? Or is Dish sending both data streams (MPEG4 & HEVC) over the same "channel?" If the latter, I would expect that to use a lot more bandwidth per channel.
 
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I think they’re saying the received MPEG-4 stream is being re-encoded on the fly into HEVC to save space.

Hmmmm.

That would be impressive, especially on the H3, with it's 16+ tuner setup. The BCM7445 "delivers four transcoded HD video streams" per Broadcom.
 
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Pretty sure it's only 1, and they would push a Hopper/Sling or Hopper 3 for more than 2 TV's
 
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I don't want to start another thread just for this. Does anyone know how many Hopper Duo DVRs Dish will let you have?
Only one Hopper Duo per residential account. And, before you ask, no they will not let you mix a Hopper Duo with any other type of Hopper on the same account, either.
 
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I found the post on the tech portal

Because the Hopper Duo uses HEVC compression (more efficient than MPEG4) the 500 GB hard-drive can record up to 125 hrs in HD.
Even though the 722 has the same size hard-drive it has a lower HD recording capacity at 55 hrs.
But whats up there that is in HEVC right now that is available for customers? As far as I know nothing.
 
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I found the post on the tech portal

Because the Hopper Duo uses HEVC compression (more efficient than MPEG4) the 500 GB hard-drive can record up to 125 hrs in HD.
Even though the 722 has the same size hard-drive it has a lower HD recording capacity at 55 hrs.
But whats up there that is in HEVC right now that is available for customers? As far as I know nothing.
I don't know, but at least one DIRT member is advertising the Hopper Duo as already having the 125 hours HD capacity in another thread:
The DVR service fee for the Hopper Duo is $10 a month. It has built in apps as well like Netflix, Pandora and game finder. It also has a hard drive that can hold 125 hours of HD programming, 500 hours of SD.
 

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