Local channels network feeds squished

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  1. mewdi

    mewdi Topic Starter New Member

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    Hi all new the fourm.

    First I DO NOT have a HD television and wish not to have one, I only receive
    two OTA channels where I live. Outside antenna at 40'.
    A converter box is NOT an option here, as come Feb. my OTA will be ONE channel.

    Just recently my local channels are, when network feed is there, squished horizontally and stretched vertical. No black bars top or bottom on HD content.
    Just tall thin people. When local station feed it is normal.
    This now occurs on all my locals when they are on network feed.
    The SD material from network shows up as a square picture, black bars on
    both sides, not at top and bottom.

    I compare the two OTA channels to the same two dish channels and see the
    big difference in the horizontal.

    What's going on here ?
    Is Dish putting all the locals in anamorphic?
    Buy why only the network feeds and not the local productions ?

    Must be somebody complain'd they don't like the black bars on top and
    bottom, and would rather see circles that look like an egg setting vert.!

    The term stretch-o-vision now has an entirely new meaning.

    Thanks
    J.R.Hengartner
     
  2. harshness

    harshness SatelliteGuys Master

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    What is the model number of your receiver?

    What type of TV do you have (normal, wide screen)?

    Did you believe at one time that color television would steal your soul or give you cataracts? ;)
     
  3. mewdi

    mewdi Topic Starter New Member

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    squished pictures

    In answer to your questions:

    I have 2 sat boxes:

    1. pvr 510
    2. 11886

    Tv's are 4:3 AR

    Both boxes exhibit same thing.

    Again only network feeds from the local stations are this way.
    All local programing on my locals is 4:3 and will be for some time
    to come.

    I've never seen this phenominon before until the last couple of weeks.

    Now the twist here is: The CBS network feed is somewhat squished
    but have to look close to see it. While all other network feeds are tall and
    skinny.

    I have no access to OTA DT except for CBS and will remain that way
    after the switchover in Feb.

    Also, whatever is happening here; the time difference between the analog
    signal and the sat signal is now 5 sec. It used to be in miliseconds.

    So some big conversion delay is happening somewhere.

    Again; this does not happen on any other sat. channels that I can see
    so far. Only the local netword feeds.

    Thanks

    Jack
     
  4. mewdi

    mewdi Topic Starter New Member

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    squished local network feeds

    A footnote here:

    The market area here is:(for reference)

    Traverse City-Cadillac Michigan

    Jack
     
  5. levibluewa

    levibluewa SatelliteGuys Pro

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    Squished picture routine

    I've noticed this frequently on the AAD channels from Atlanta, particularly the NBC and CBS feed. For some reason it doesn't affect the ABC or FOX affiliate. Also, have noticed this via Comcast on 7.2, KIRO's sub-channel. In the morning when KIRO cuts to the network feed of The Morning Show, they continue local news on the sub-channel. The local news is in HD, and I haven't confirmed this, but I believe the 7.2 news at 7am is also HD. Comcast does not carry the sub-channel HD feed so the 16:9 is squished to 4:3 making the announcers appear much slimer...sorta Jenny Craig without the diet!

    Regarding the AAD signals, sometimes you can adjust the picture with the format buttons and sometimes it has no effect. It's annoying, but like lip sync delay, not much you can do about it.

    I haven't noted a technical reason for the aspec ratio problem, but I dare say probably wouldn't understand it anyway!
     
  6. KKlare

    KKlare SatelliteGuys Pro

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    You seem to be mixing together OTA, satellite HD, and sat SD; SD and HD outputs; aspect settings.

    First decide if you have HD or SD. If SD, then adjust your output type to 480i with 4:3 type #1 or 2 vs. 16:9 and then use the format (*) button to get the best match to you TV and the signal sent--letterbox, stretch, normal, etc. This setting is separate for HD and SD signals, assuming you have an HD receiver like the 622. Many of us prefer letterbox on HD channels to get a round circle and square boxes and only stretch what we can stand distorted.

    Almost all sub-channel beyond x.1 OTA broadcasts are 4:3 480i or 480p. All Dish SD channels are 480i. Dish HD channels are 720p or 1080i signals but are converted to your selected HD output and to 480i SD signals to your TV.

    This is basic and you may already know this.

    -Ken
     

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