Multiple 4K Clients

[geno239]

Did a 4 box swap replace job the other day. HR 54 and 3 C61K clients. Problem is. They have 3 4k televisions. But can only watch 1 in 4k at a time. other 4k clients say already turn off other client to view 4k. Anyone else had this happen?

 

[Zashel]

working as intended.

currently...

 

[texasbrit]

Yes, one 4K client at a time is the limit.

 

[Claude Greiner]

That sucks.

Why can't Directv come out with a 4K receiver that does not require clients.

 

[jcrandall]

Just to clarify the discussion is that a Genie can only serve one 4K stream at a time to a client, a user can order/activate multiple C61k 4K client boxes, and can watch SD/HD programming on multiple, but the HR54 will only send one 4k stream at a time.

 

[mdram]

yep, the current 4k system is a hobbled together patchwork mess

nest week they are releasing tin cans and strings

 

[Drucifer]

Live 4K is still relativity new. First generation stuff are never great.

 

[Jimbo]

That sucks.

Why can't Directv come out with a 4K receiver that does not require clients.

They will eventually.

 

[mdram]

how many 4k could dish do if dish had 4k?

 

[goaliebob99]

Probably not that many because they dont really have the room for it and certainly not the 50 channel 4K capacity DirecTV has now.

 

[mdram]

i meant how many 4k tvs can a hopper3 feed with 4k joeys?

 

[Claude Greiner]

Probably not that many because they dont really have the room for it and certainly not the 50 channel 4K capacity DirecTV has now.

They are trying to make room. They shut down a ton of SD feeds on eastern arc last week and are getting rid of QPSK receivers

 

[goaliebob99]

They are trying to make room. They shut down a ton of SD feeds on eastern arc last week and are getting rid of QPSK receivers

You figure it's about 15 SD channels= 4-6 HD Channels = 1 UHD channel. SD running about 2 megs each, HD at 6-8 megs each and UHD at approx 27 megs with some overhead depending on statistical muxing and content. Depending on the bandwidth of a transponder and its transmission settings, you can get 1.5 - 2 UHD channels on a transponder.

I'm amazed that it's taking them this long to figure out how to do UHD, but then again they (E*/Dish) said KA couldn't work either and DirecTV has been using KA for quite some time without any issues.

 

[Jimbo]

You figure it's about 15 SD channels= 4-6 HD Channels = 1 UHD channel. SD running about 2 megs each, HD at 6-8 megs each and UHD at approx 27 megs with some overhead depending on statistical muxing and content. Depending on the bandwidth of a transponder and its transmission settings, you can get 1.5 - 2 UHD channels on a transponder.

I'm amazed that it's taking them this long to figure out how to do UHD, but then again they (E*/Dish) said KA couldn't work either and DirecTV has been using KA for quite some time without any issues.

Wow, I never looked into the math, but thats a HUGE amount for UHD, but it sounds right seeing your getting 4 x the info.

I think E just didn't want to get into the KA stuff ... many E people are happy about that as they don't have to then have a different dish/LNB, like D* is currently doing.

 

[goaliebob99]

Wow, I never looked into the math, but thats a HUGE amount for UHD, but it sounds right seeing your getting 4 x the info.

I think E just didn't want to get into the KA stuff ... many E people are happy about that as they don't have to then have a different dish/LNB, like D* is currently doing.

The only reason why the LNB swap is happening for 4K clients is because of Reverse Band. 17.7-19.2 Ghz range is what I think it is. (something in those parts) DirecTV is doing the same that they did with KA band with Reverse Band. From what I heard from a few old timers who worked for Dish at the time is that E* attempted to do KA but couldn't figure it out and said it couldn't be done. DirecTV did the same and made it work. It's all hear say anyhow. One thing is DirecTV is in the catbird seat when it comes to spectrum because their investments in KA and now reverse band and those investments are now paying off. I cant see how E* would be able to match anything DirecTV would be able to offer unless they use both arch's at the same time for different programming or start an all 4k transition when we see simulcasts of channels like ESPN, HBO, Discovery in 4K. I don't think were too far off for that, and that would begin in the next few years (Network programming launching in 4K). From DirecTV's point of view an LNB swap is a good thing because that means they are getting additional revenue from another band that was unused and they increased their bandwidth by double.