Nationwide Launch of 5 Reverse Band LNB Coming (1 Viewer)

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Got this in from a DIRECTV Retailer... looks like the new Reverse Band 5 LNB will be launching nationwide next week. Here are the details. Thanks for being SatelliteGuys. :D



Following a successful pilot, we are excited to announce that the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB will be available to use nationally as of August 4, 2016.

Like the Reverse Band 3 LNB that launched earlier this year, the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB is capable of receiving and downconverting Ka, Ku as well as the new Reverse Band satellite frequencies, which will play a key role in our future delivery of broadcast 4K channels. The main difference from the Digital Reverse Band 3 is that the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB can receive programming from the 119 orbital slot.

When to Use Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB
Since this hardware will be needed for the future delivery of broadcast 4K content, the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB should only be used when the work order dictates it, and per the Service rules defined below.

Technicians should check the Product information and Capability field found in the LNB OLI for every job except Service, much like the work order-driven requirements to install the Digital Reverse Band 3. If the Product is Reverse Band 5 or the Capability field reads “RBAND5:true”, the system will only allow a Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB to be installed in order to successfully close the OLI, and an error message will appear if a different LNB is installed.

Service calls will not have the Capability field indicator for Digital Reverse Band 5, so technicians will need to keep in mind that the system enforces like-for-like LNB swaps. If a customer already has a Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB, only a Digital Reverse Band 5 can be installed in its place.

The physical installation procedure for the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB is exactly the same as all other SWiM LNBs, so there should not be any change in technician workflow. Technicians should take note of the physical shape and features of the Digital Reverse Band 5 to ensure they are selecting the appropriate LNB to install, and if in doubt, the model number should start with 5D2RB.



Field personnel should also keep the following details in mind:

  • OLI and Capability Field: Before pulling an LNB off the truck, check the LNB OLI – Product line: “DIGITAL SWM LNB”; Product name “REVERSE BAND 5” – or the Capability field to understand which LNB will be required for a job.
  • Service: Service swap rules for Reverse Band are like-for-like, but the Capability field won’t be available to deliver that information.
  • Serial Number Scanning Information: Technicians can scan the serial number of a Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB using their handhelds and the product line on the OLI will automatically populate. Additional information and screen shots are provided in the Reverse Band 5 job aid.
  • AIM Firmware and IV Database Update: Technicians should ensure that their AIM is updated to support Digital Reverse Band 5. AIMs should be loaded with at least firmware v4.0 and IV database v0041. These updates were originally released to the field in January 2016, can be found by selecting this link and are designed to work on AIM 1.0 and 1.5.
  • Tuner Count: At launch, the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB operationally supports up to 13 tuners in a SWiM system. For more details on the difference between digital and analog SWiM LNBs, please visit the DOCK and search keyword “digital vs analog”.
    • The work order will not contain a Reverse Band OLI when customers have more than 13 tuners in their home. However, those customers can still be authorized for broadcast 4K content, which should be confirmed before leaving the home.
  • Inventory Details: Technicians – including contractors – should make every effort to ensure they always have on-truck inventory of Digital Reverse Band 5 LNBs to support systemic requirements. Please keep in mind that Digital Reverse Band 5 should only be used on 4K work orders where the 119 orbital slot is needed to receive certain programming. The recommended par level for the Digital Reverse Band 5 LNB is 1 for legacy DIRECTV technicians.
 
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Jvfan57

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Any word yet if the international channels will be moved to one of the satellites that this 5 LNB will provide reception for?


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LMAO well im 2 hours late... I literally just sent this to Scott.... oh well, August 4th guys, keep in mind it depends on warehouse availability. An no nothing with 95 can be integrated yet. The solution is not designed to be residential for right now either. There are rumors, but nothing concrete. Even to my ears...
 

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Yea I heard there could be a way of diplexing 95 in, but ultimately, I think it would be better if they were moved to the 110/119 and SD turned off at 101 (All HD Transition) sooner than later. I think the lease on the 95 slots are up in the next few years so DirecTV / AT&T needs to figure out what they want to do to serve international customers who want 4k programming concurrently. In the meantime, I hope they come up with a solution because I would be highly irritated if end up launching let's say HBO 4k on reverse band and I can't get it because I sub to Korean channels on 95. They need to roll out a solution sooner than later.
 
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LMAO well im 2 hours late... I literally just sent this to Scott.... oh well, August 4th guys, keep in mind it depends on warehouse availability. An no nothing with 95 can be integrated yet. The solution is not designed to be residential for right now either. There are rumors, but nothing concrete. Even to my ears...

I heard the way they where doing it was with a special legacy Lnb with 5 outputs and you would run it through a SWM 16 or SWM 8 switch using flex1 and flex2

I really wish they would get rid of the legacy backbone in these D2 commercial installations and get the cost down and go with fiber between the switches or everything down to a single or double coax.

Maybe stacking the legacy signals.
 

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Yeah ...

But after all this long wait for the Reverse Band 5 LNB, it may be all for not with DIRECTV's so far confusing and unexplained limitation to only 13 max. tuner support.

Need 15 tuner support for the install here.

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Read on regarding 13 vs 22. There are a ton of threads on it. And thats basically the setup im hearing about... with some twists. Legacy rvb lnb 6coax to a dswm13 or dswm30 ms, using both flex1 and 2. And i have heard.. but cannot confirm that 95 can possibly be diplexed onto flex1. But i believe its all just speculation as my sources all seem to have conflicting information on this.
 

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Read on regarding 13 vs 22. There are a ton of threads on it. ...

Oh, did I miss something?

I always thought I was keeping abreast on this confusing issue, but could never get a firm explanation.

Could you give a link or explain the 13 vs. 21 (actually) max. tuner support issue for the RB LNBs?



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Read on regarding 13 vs 22. There are a ton of threads on it. And thats basically the setup im hearing about... with some twists. Legacy rvb lnb 6coax to a dswm13 or dswm30 ms, using both flex1 and 2. And i have heard.. but cannot confirm that 95 can possibly be diplexed onto flex1. But i believe its all just speculation as my sources all seem to have conflicting information on this.

When you get more info on this I would be highly interested in it.
 

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And maybe someone can explain why Directv doesn't just move the programming from 95 to D15.
 

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And maybe someone can explain why Directv doesn't just move the programming from 95 to D15.

They don't want to put the capital expenditure into it. You would have to move it to another uplink dish aimed at the new location, or possibly retrofit an existing one that isnt in use and uplink dish's don't grow like trees! :p The biggest reason is D15 may be reserved for part time NFLST for upcoming football. Speculation, though.
 

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Oh, did I miss something?

I always thought I was keeping abreast on this confusing issue, but could never get a firm explanation.

Could you give a link or explain the 13 vs. 21 (actually) max. tuner support issue for the RB LNBs?



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It's something to do with the software on certain receivers.

I did a 15 tuner install with a reverse band, had a few receivers have different software and had to go back and install a SWM 16
 

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So did this August 4 launch occur or did it get pushed back? I've been putting off my 4K upgrade until it was available but the local installer who always does my stuff says he still can't get it. None have popped up on eBay either.
 

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On my 4k upgrade yesterday the tech had the RB5 LNB and did not have any RB3 on his truck.
Funny enough is my install had to have the RB3 as the 119 signal is blocked but the 99/101/103 comes in great. He had to get the RB3 from a nearby tech.

I would say they are in regular use now.
 
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