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Will do, I own that one and plan in ordering the concert for George Blu as well as the 25th rock and roll hall of fame concert. Also have the dark side of the moon sacd.
 
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Something interesting from HTM, which I missed the first go around, about how the center works. Pretty cool.

This is for the RB and RC "I", but Id assume it applies to the newer "II" line.

The RB-81's woofer is 8 inches, the RC-62 center channel's woofers are 6.5 inches, and the RS-52 surround's woofers are 5.25 inches.

Klipsch offers a noteworthy refinement in the center-channel speaker. Only one woofer operates all the way up the midrange to the tweeter crossover. The other one operates solely at low frequencies. This makes the center more of a 2.5-way design than a two-way. More importantly, it defeats the cancellation effect that occurs in dual-woofer designs where both woofers operate through the same frequency range. I wish more manufacturers would follow suit—conventional horizontal center-speaker design is the key weakness of most of the products I review.

Klipsch RB-81 Speaker System | Home Theater
 
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This is done to prevent comb filtering between the two drivers in the midrange.

I've used speakers with a 2.5 way design on a couple of occasions. it's implemented as a low pass filter on one of the drivers and is fairly simple to implement. i don't know why more manufacturers don't implement this.

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Is this how some of the 4 and 5 speaker towers are done as well, one driver devoted to a part of the band?
 
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Ok, so you tower guys got me researching some more, dammit. I spoke with the seller, and Im changing my order to these:

RF-82 II
BUILT FROM: 2010
DEPTH: 16.3" (41.4cm) with grille
ENCLOSURE TYPE: Bass-reflex via dual rear-firing ports
FINISHES: Black Ash & Cherry woodgrain vinyl
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 33Hz-24KHz ± 3dB
HEIGHT: 43.9" (111.4cm) with feet
HIGH FREQUENCY CROSSOVER: 1400Hz
HIGH FREQUENCY DRIVER: 1" (2.54cm) Titanium diaphragm compression driver mated to 90° x 60° square Tractrix® Horn
INPUTS: Dual binding posts / bi-wire / bi-amp
LOW FREQUENCY DRIVER: Dual 8" (20.3cm) Cerametallic cone woofers
NOMINAL IMPEDANCE: 8 Ohms compatible
POWER HANDLING: 150W RMS / 600W Peak
SENSITIVITY: 98dB @ 2.83V / 1m
WEIGHT: 61.5lbs (32.2kg)
WIDTH: 9.3" (23.5cm)

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I figure 3 horns, 2 6.5" drivers, 4 8" drivers and a 12" sub should be enough to enjoy movies. Right?

I've never owned good towers, so I figure I owe it to myself to give it a try and see.
 
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Yeah, what the hell...

My wife is gonna be like WTF??? when we go from the ProMonitors to all this heavy artillery.
 
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I love my K towers, glad I moved up to them.
 
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Towers usually give you better mid-range and they usually offer a bettter dynamic range too, which is important for movies, where you want to hear not just explosions but also a whisper.

But as I always suggest, don't just read reviews and suggestions. Go to an A/V store, take your favorite blu-rays and CDs with you and spend time auditioning various types of speakers. A good A/V store should be able to set up a back-to-back comparison for you. And some would even give you a loaner for at-home auditioning. I've done that in the past with various types of aidio components.

You may discover that even the best regarded speakers might not be the best choice to your taste. It's like choosing a good wine. Don't just go by the Wine Spectator ratings. Taste it! :)

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Thanks ilya, I already did listen to a few reference versions and I like their sound. What has me interested, and it is the way the center channel is done, is that in a multiple speaker tower they each are assigned a certain freq range to allow each driver to reproduce less of the spectrum, and better. As stated, Im an audio newbie and still learning a lot of this. Ive always had bookshelfs (except some cheap polk floorstanders that were 2-way), so I decided I wanted to try these towers out and see what i think.

I do not think I can go wrong, it may be overkill, but nothing else.
 
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I don't think you can go wrong with these speakers, but it still looks to me like you are somewhat spontaneous in your decision. ;)

I usually spend hours auditioning speakers before making the final purchasing decision. And in more than one case such auditioning had changed my top choice, to my surprise actually...

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Well, I guess to oversimplify it, Im not an audiophile by any means. I just like to watch action movies loud, and I want my boom and bang to sound good :)

Im really happy with the Def Tech's, my only complaint is that I think the fronts having 5.25" woofers is not enough, in my case. When I listened to the Klipsch Reference at BBuy, I was happy with thier sound, and with reading reviews of what they are good it, seems like a great fit. I think this beefier center (going from dual 5.25's to dual 6.5's), and the floorstanders (going from 1" tweet and 5.25" driver to 1" tweeter in horn and dual 8" drivers) beefs up the area of the soundstage that I feel is lacking.

I guess Im better at noticing what Im missing, or dont like, than I would be at noticing what is better than another, if you get what i mean. Maybe one day Ill be able to sit down and really nitpick stuff, but thats just not me right now. I mean the only real bad thing I have to say about the Polk floorstanders is they rattled and not enough bass. The Def Tech's tweeter I dont think hangs in well at higher volumes, and of course the 5.25" is just not cutting it at 80hz.

My friend just put a Klipsch Synergy 3.1 system together with my Denon 1911 and my Sub-12. It sounds really good.
 
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elwaylite said:
Well, I guess to oversimplify it, Im not an audiophile by any means. I just like to watch action movies loud, and I want my boom and bang to sound good :)
I don't consider myself an audiophile either. But that's exactly why I think it is very important for us to make our own decisions, rather than follow suggestions from some audiophiles. ;)
What is important for us, might not even be on the reviewers' priority lists. That's my point!

Enough! I don't want to spoil it for you! Sounds like you did your homework and had a chance to listen to different speakers, so you know what you are getting. And I am certain you will not regret your choice. My comments were mostly for others reading this thread, so they wouldn't just blindly follow any recommendations here...

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Oh I agree. Video is just as bad, it's the historical "reference vs preference". :)
 
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The best bet after you have purchased your speakers is to stop listening to other speakers. It is likely that there is always a better sounding speaker out there, if you never hear it, you will never know what you are missing.
 
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No worries there, most people I know dont even have surr sound, and my inlaws have a "blows" system. :)
 
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aside from the room, speakers are the most colored (meaning inaccurate) devices in our systems. so even if it sounds good in the showroom it wont sound the same in your house .

what i have found listening to many speakers is that anything that jumps out at you will annoy in the long term.

you need to make sure there is a no penalty return clause as well.



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John Kotches said:
aside from the room, speakers are the most colored (meaning inaccurate) devices in our systems. so even if it sounds good in the showroom it wont sound the same in your house .

what i have found listening to many speakers is that anything that jumps out at you will annoy in the long term.

you need to make sure there is a no penalty return clause as well.

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I've seen a lot of comments about folks auditioning for 30 days. I know sometimes speakers need a little use to work in.

I've read more on the klipsch, an it seems 3 gens ago they went from the 1.75" tweeter to the 1". This was a decision a lot of folks liked because it cured the brightness and in your face issue those horns had, made then more mellow.

Of course some of the diehards were not happy. A klipsch employee even commented on how they had to dial the 1.75" tweeter down to make sure it did not overrun the 8" woofers in the old RB-75s.

You think about all the video tech, there is really a lot more to audio than one first assumes.
 

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