Just a update, I haven't had any luck pulling anything else in. I took my 24in CRT and receiver out to the dish (should've seen the people stare at me setting up a TV and lounge chair in the backyard.) I sat and fine tuned 121W the best I could get was 90% Strength 25% Quality. This was with me even moving the LNB (thanks to this place for where to start guessing where to test was exactly 2 3/8in on the arm). When I did try other birds strength would reach into low to mid 90's but no lock and 0 quality So I'm guessing between my yard and undersized dish I maybe stuck with just Velocity until I can get a larger dish or get this tree trimmed back.