Next DISH Satellite Launch Delayed?

[ScoBuck]

Yesterdays launch failure puts the launch date of AMC-14 in doubt for this year.

ILS 2007

Delay shouldn't be as long as the Sea Launch delay (which will end up being about 8 months) as there was no damage to the launch facility, and the Proton is a proven launch vehicle.

But I can easily see 4-6 months before the review board gets its findings and can check the inventory of Proton vehicles for similar problems.

Not good to have 2 accidents in one year - it certanly will set many plans back a bit.

 

[mdonnelly]

Problems with ILS, and problems with SeaLaunch. Definitely bad news. How have the French been doing lately?

 

[ScoBuck]

Problems with ILS, and problems with SeaLaunch. Definitely bad news. How have the French been doing lately?

The LAST thing we need now is a hat trick!

 

[pduncan]

Yesterdays launch failure puts the launch date of AMC-14 in doubt for this year.

ILS 2007

Delay shouldn't be as long as the Sea Launch delay (which will end up being about 8 months) as there was no damage to the launch facility, and the Proton is a proven launch vehicle.

But I can easily see 4-6 months before the review board gets its findings and can check the inventory of Proton vehicles for similar problems.

Not good to have 2 accidents in one year - it certanly will set many plans back a bit.

I wonder what one of those babies cost and how much they had to shell out to get it up there (or not get it up there??)

 

[ScoBuck]

Well - the satellite and related launch expenses were covered by insurance -

http://www.jsat.net/en/renewal/release/release/files/20070906.pdf

 

[TNGTony]

But there was no earth-shattering kaboom! If you are going to have a launch failure on an unmanned missle, you need to have a spectacular earth-shattering kaboom!

I guess it was just a thud...kind of like the same thud sound that was made when the ax fell on the insurance underwriter that wrote the policy on this launch.

See ya
Tony

 

[mdonnelly]

Full story from AP:
Russian rocket crashes to Earth - Yahoo! News

 

[Tom Bombadil]

Humans have been launching satellites into orbit for 50 years. You'd think we'd have the bugs worked out by now. Especially given the value of the payloads.

 

[KAB]

But there was no earth-shattering kaboom!

Tony

That makes me SO angry!

 

[mike123abc]

Echostar is just lucky their satellite was not the one on the rockets when they malfunctioned. It is one thing to have your launch delayed a few months, than to have your satellite that takes 2 years to build be the one destroyed.

 

[ScoBuck]

Echostar is just lucky their satellite was not the one on the rockets when they malfunctioned. It is one thing to have your launch delayed a few months, than to have your satellite that takes 2 years to build be the one destroyed.

Amen brother!

 

[RVD420]

Atleast AMC 14 is only leased by E*, not owned by E*.

If AMC 14 blows up Charlie is not out the money for a new bird. (at least the last 4 birds have been self-insured)

 

[frodo]

New one already odered

Wow they are quick, too bad it takes so long to build one. They expect it Summer of 2009 to be done.

http://www.jsat.net/en/renewal/release/release/files/20070906-01.pdf

 

[mike123abc]

I wonder if Echostar carries launch insurance. I know they no longer insure the actual satellites ever since E4 failed and they spent so much time and money on legal battles to get the satellite replaced.

 

[RVD420]

I wonder if Echostar carries launch insurance. I know they no longer insure the actual satellites ever since E4 failed and they spent so much time and money on legal battles to get the satellite replaced.

I don't think it matters in the case of AMC 14. AMC14 is owned by SES Americom. E* is leasing the bird.

While E* would lose the capacity that AMC14 would provide, I highly doubt E* would have to pay for the bird if it blew up.

I would assume that the lease between SES Americom and E* requires a successful launch and in-orbit delivery.

 

[mdonnelly]

I don't think it matters in the case of AMC 14. AMC14 is owned by SES Americom. E* is leasing the bird.

While E* would lose the capacity that AMC14 would provide, I highly doubt E* would have to pay for the bird if it blew up.

I would assume that the lease between SES Americom and E* requires a successful launch and in-orbit delivery.

And SES Americom will get the cost of their insurance back from Echostar over time, following that successful launch.

 

[Andrewwski]

Could be worse for ILS than you think. Kazakhstan has already threatened to ban Proton launches in the past.

BTW, there's a video of second stage separation over at Nasaspaceflight.com.

 

[Voyager6]

Launch problem found

Here is an article from SpaceFlight Now that details the problem with the last Proton launch; Spaceflight Now | Breaking News | Damaged cable blamed for downing Proton rocket
Damaged cable prevented the pyro bolts from firing and separating the first and second stages.

 

[broadcasttheworld]

What is this why is E* using the French? I remember seeing on SOUTHPARK that the Mexicans will launch a Whale to the moon for 200.00 American Dollers. GEO SYNC is much closer then the moon could get away with 100. or 150. Why waste.

 

[jerryez]

Wow, the Taco Express.