SlicerMDM said:
Go to the tivo forums and read about all the problems and glitches with the Directivo. There's PLENTY of them.
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Go to the tivo forums and read about all the problems and glitches with the Directivo. There's PLENTY of them.
SlicerMDM said:
No I just called YOU that. You fit the stereotypical Tivo fanatic to a T. Hey do any of these things mean anything to you:
Caller Id?
Browse?
1 hour buffer?
Remaining recording time display?
Favorites lists?
A fast guide?
No 1-2 minute "please wait" message everytime you delete something?
Oh but wait, you don't need these features because your Tivo has wishlists and will record random stuff that it thinks you could like.
Chris Walker said:
:haha BWAHAHAHAHA! Dude! Have you been watching the "Charlie Chats" since August? I question E*'s close contact with their own operations, much less with their customers! I'll grant you that D* is tight-lipped but at least their customers don't seem to be waiting on false promises. How long did Charlie keep promising the 522 and why is there not one in my living room now?
Chris Walker said:
Chris, you brought up a couple of valid things here.
I will miss Caller ID (why the heck doesn't Tivo have this?)
Never use browse on my E* receivers so don't care.
1 hour buffer is a toss up because Tivo does 30 min on each tuner whereas E* does 1 hour for a single tuner
Favorites list will definetly miss those
guide speed, the Tivo style guide instead of the grid guide is faster, hopefully I can get used to using that because I am inpatient when it comes to guide speed.
The random recording on the Tivo can be turned off so this isn't an issue.
No device is perfect. Why is that both D* and E* should know their shortcomings and should fix them!
>BTW, E* DVR users would kill for Tivo's "lack of vision".
>Go ahead, admit it. Never mind. We know the answer
Uhhh.. If Tivo is so darn great , why the heck are you wasting your time on a Dish Network forum instead of sitting in front of your toy watching it perform all of it's magic ????
>Go ahead, admit it. Never mind. We know the answer
Uhhh.. If Tivo is so darn great , why the heck are you wasting your time on a Dish Network forum instead of sitting in front of your toy watching it perform all of it's magic ????
Chris Walker said:
Don't forget idiot, joe sixpacker!!
Once again. Look at your posts. Defending E* shoddy receivers. Why don't you address that? Can you say, fanatic?
Chris Walker said:
Caller Id? - Pointless extra
Browse? - Browse what? I can browse all kind of stuff.
1 hour buffer? - Never wanted to move back more than 5 or 10 min, much less 1 hour. Is 1 hour more than 30 min? Sure. Does that make it better? Only if you'd use it. Like I said, I rarely use 5 or 10 min back, so this is pointless.
Remaining recording time display? - Never missed recording something because I didn't have the space so. Pointless
Favorites lists? - I have a favorite list. Next.
A fast guide? - Finally! A real complaint! I don't use it much. But when I do, it IS slow!
No 1-2 minute "please wait" message everytime you delete something? - Maybe I'm doing something wrong but I don't have to wait when I delete something. I generally have a dozen or so things saved at a time. Maybe that's why.
Feel free to make your comments on
Why it's fine for E* to ship BETA quality receivers.
Why the 721 update took, like 8 months to deliver, THEN, IT had bugs.
TONS of other stuff to list but I have to go...
Perhaps I'll fill you later about all the bugs you defend with E* equipment but, realistically, you know what these are don't you, FANATIC!
Well the PC PVR is also buggy and has software issues. I was disapointed with the problems I had out of the box. It took me about two weeks until I finally got it to work right for the most part.
SlicerMDM said:Don't forget idiot, joe sixpacker!!
Caller Id? - Pointless extra
I think wishlists, Tivo's recommendations, and season passes are "pointless extras". However I do find a fast guide, caller id, browse features, favorites lists, remaining recording time displayed, and the other features I mentioned VERY useful. So who's to say that one reciever is superior to the other? And I don't know why you feel the need to harp on E*'s supposed "shoddy recievers". My 508's and 721 have worked flawlessly other than some minor issues during a previous software release of the 721, but that has been fixed for some time now. Tivo has had some bad software and bugs too, that's technology for you.
SlicerMDM said:Don't forget idiot, joe sixpacker!!
1 hour buffer? - Never wanted to move back more than 5 or 10 min, much less 1 hour. Is 1 hour more than 30 min? Sure. Does that make it better? Only if you'd use it. Like I said, I rarely use 5 or 10 min back, so this is pointless.
MANY times I will watch something then pause it for maybe 45-50 minutes for a phone call, and it's quite nice to be able to rewind 60-65 minutes to either watch or record the beginning.
928gt said:
Ever been around someone at work that uses a Mac? They don't get the hint either. It's always "man you need to switch, Bill Gates is satan, Windows is going DOWN". These Tivo fanatics are very similar, they hate Dish Network, Charlie Ergen, and have to trash them when talking to a Dish customer at every opportunity. I think it makes their day for some reason.
juan said:I GUESS ALL THOSE MISSING LOCALS FROM LAST YEAR DONT COUNT!!!!!!!
:shocked
Okay, I'll play that game. When I got my E* system 4 years ago, the installer assured me that I would have locals within 6 months. He had received word from E* that the final negotiations were going on even as we spoke. Care to take a guess at how that played out? Go ahead, ask me if New Orleans has locals even now. But am I angry? No, because I felt that Charlie's hardball tactics kept subscription costs low. You win some, you lose some.At any rate, I was not promised locals by D* (or anyone else) last year and the D* forums were (for the most part) inactive so I can't really comment on "missing locals from last year." If you say so, I'll have to take your word for it. How many locals were promised?
Neither E* not D* walks on water as far as I'm concerned. I take any promises of upcoming programming with a grain of salt because negotiations between corporations can always break down. However, E*, and only E*, is responsible for their product. They control the software, development, and production. I waited 2 years for the 522. What the heck happened? Obviously that is my big bone to pick with Charlie. He kept announcing on his chat that it was coming "next quarter." And I stand by my comments about E* appearing to be out of touch with itself since August.
Chris Walker, you are a funny man! You joined this forum this month (I'm betting today, actually) and as of right now, you have made 13 posts, all in this topic, and alll to trash and insult people who like (or prefer) DirecTV, Tivo, and Macintosh computers.
Things must be slow at home, huh?
You joined this forum this month (I'm betting today, actually) and as of right now, you have made 13 posts, all in this topic, and alll to trash and insult people who like (or prefer) DirecTV, Tivo, and Macintosh computers.Things must be slow at home, huh?
Chris Walker said:
I agree. Wishlists and Tivo recs are pointless. I don't use them either.
However, season pass (ie: name-based recording) is, IMO, a requirement for any DVR. It simply makes the process of recording show a no-brainer. For instance, "The Apprentice" has been changing days and times ever since it started. Know what I had to do to record it? That's right, "Hey Tivo, record 'The Apprentice'". Done.
How about recording repeats, or only first run shows? (I really don't know) Do E* DVRs do that? If I've already recorded a show, Tivo knows it and doesn't record it again. Pretty nice if you ask me. Much smarter than "Record show 'ABCD' from 7pm - 8pm every Tue night". .. "Duh, ok"..
And you ask above, "So who's to say that one reciever is superior to the other?" .. well, YOU DID! At least your first post in this thread you said "Overall Dish is the superior service".
Dude, you're simply an EchoTroll looking to start an argument for the sake of arguing. Look at this thread! The first post is a guy saying he see's no reason to go to D*. Ok, that's fine. An honest observation. And you come back with -- "Tivo fanatics", "pushy", "it's BETAMAX", "stock in toilet", "Tivo bankrupt",...
And you STILL don't acknowledge the plethora of mistakes, bugs, mis-statements, beta-release hardware, that E* made for more than a year now! Is this the "superior" company you're referring to?
Just like Beta tapes. Both Macs and Beta were better than their competitors - Microsoft driven IBM clones and VHS. But look what was economically viable and became the defacto standard. Macs lost because Microsoft licensed their software for anyone who cared to use it, as long as MS got their cut. Beta lost because VHS was licensed to other manufactures and Sony kept Beta as a private format ... until it was too late.Chris Walker said:
Tivos may be the best. But are they going to last longer than copycats and alternative program recording and timeshifting methods? Their only hope is to win lawsuits that would grant them a monopoly on the IDEA of recording to hard drive, the IDEA of time shifting, and the IDEA of doing all the other tricks they claim patent on. But they are destined for failure. You can patent a process, but you cannot patent the IDEA.
As long as others are not stealing the process (they have independenly figured out how to accomplish the idea) patent suits are not going to save Tivo. And the day that the court rules against Tivo MANY more people are going to be encouraged to show THEIR way of accomplishing the IDEA.
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