Not happy with 1000.4 so far.

[rogerpl]

i'm gonna have to play with my 1k4. Signals are not good as low as 18-24 on a couple of 61.5 TPs . If it gets worse I can just call 60, warranty on install.
How does it decide which dish to use. I've noticed the same channel use different sats.

 

[Stargazer]

I have not heard of the 1000.5 before. How does it differ from the 1000.4? Larger dish reflector pan?

 

[Hemi 6.1]

I have not heard of the 1000.5 before. How does it differ from the 1000.4? Larger dish reflector pan?

Yes , It uses the 500/1000 Plus Reflector.

22x28 vs 24x31

 

[dishcomm]

i'm gonna have to play with my 1k4. Signals are not good as low as 18-24 on a couple of 61.5 TPs . If it gets worse I can just call 60, warranty on install.
How does it decide which dish to use. I've noticed the same channel use different sats.

yes. Different channels are bounced off the various sats. On occasion, channels are moved to other satellites

 

[Voyager6]

I have not heard of the 1000.5 before. How does it differ from the 1000.4? Larger dish reflector pan?

Info on the 1000.5 can be found in this thread. It is basically the D500+ reflector pan with the 1000.4 arm and LNB attached. I wonder if this would work with a SD105?

 

[the mack]

seems I recall someone using a sd121 pan, not sure if the 105 pan is different.

 

[Hemi 6.1]

Info on the 1000.5 can be found in this thread. It is basically the D500+ reflector pan with the 1000.4 arm and LNB attached. I wonder if this would work with a SD105?

Super Dish is only 20 inches high, Thats 2 inches less the the 1000.4. and 4 inches less the the "Plus" Dish
So I'm not sure how that would work out.

 

[the mack]

it also seems the pans would be optimized for the spacing of the sats it receives?

 

[Hemi 6.1]

it also seems the pans would be optimized for the spacing of the sats it receives?

The Super Dish is a really odd shape then the Plus and 1000.4 dish.

• Super Dish : 20x36
• 1000.4 :22x28
• 500+/1000+ :24x31
• 1000.2 :19x24
• Dish 500 : 20x22
• Dish 300 :18" Round

 

[the mack]

funny thing though, my 1000.2 looks bigger then my friends 1000.4 which seems more round then oval, must be an illusion.... at least from the ground.

 

[TheForce]

dishcomm- Thanks for your step by step. It is pretty much what I did. I have a roof mount so the concrete is N/A. I will be adding the guy bars to the mast and I will verify it is solid and plumb before proceeding. I think my earlier report of observing the wobble while adjusting was causing me all my problems attempting to do the tweak.

Does anyone know about my question on the analog meter connected to port 1, with the Receiver set for 72 TP 21. I think the answer is the analog meter sees any signal through that port and the meter on the dish tuning page ( Menu 611 ) is where you have to tweak the individual birds. It's either that or use a high end meter which I don't have. If I did more experimenting, I would buy one but this is the first tweaking I have done in 2 years!

 

[Stargazer]

I thought I measured a SuperDish as being 24x36 but maybe that was the fiberglass one.

 

[Voyager6]

I thought I measured a SuperDish as being 24x36 but maybe that was the fiberglass one.

Mine is the Type 1 (metal) and measures 24" X 33.3". The Type II (fiberglass) is 21" X 36". I just may try the 1000.4 conversion.

 

[ggw2000]

Did you...

dishcomm- Thanks for your step by step. It is pretty much what I did. I have a roof mount so the concrete is N/A. I will be adding the guy bars to the mast and I will verify it is solid and plumb before proceeding. I think my earlier report of observing the wobble while adjusting was causing me all my problems attempting to do the tweak.

Does anyone know about my question on the analog meter connected to port 1, with the Receiver set for 72 TP 21. I think the answer is the analog meter sees any signal through that port and the meter on the dish tuning page ( Menu 611 ) is where you have to tweak the individual birds. It's either that or use a high end meter which I don't have. If I did more experimenting, I would buy one but this is the first tweaking I have done in 2 years!

Don, did you use the mast that came with the 1K4? It is significantly more heavy duty than a d500 mast. You also must really use the struts that came with the dish. The 1K4 is a heavy dish and winds will cause you all kinds of hassle. I put the struts on mine the other day and it is rock solid now.
I don't have a meter so don't use one. I highly recommend that you peak using a receiver like it says in the manual. Peak on tp 19 or 21 as it says to do w/72.7. Luckily my dish is mounted to my deck and I just open the window and my wife yells out the readings as I tweak .
Good luck, Gerry

 

[Hemi 6.1]

I thought I measured a SuperDish as being 24x36 but maybe that was the fiberglass one.

Dish Network SuperDISH 121 105

 

[TheForce]

Gerry- Actually I have my own mast which is a shorter pipe than the one that came with the 1k.4. I will be fabricating my own guy bars too since none came with the kit. The important thing is that the mast be vertically plumb and solid. Mine is plumb but has a bit of wobble when I push on it. Once the guy bars are attached, it should be solid. The mast that came with the 1k.4 is much more flimsy and thin than what I have up there. The OD of the pipe is the same so that is also not an issue.

Been busy the past two days so I should be able to get back on the project tomorrow. For two days the signal has been weak but steady. I lost signal on 61.5 TP 32 when it rained a little. I expected that because the signal in the clear was only 15.

 

[ggw2000]

Good deal!

Gerry- Actually I have my own mast which is a shorter pipe than the one that came with the 1k.4. I will be fabricating my own guy bars too since none came with the kit. The important thing is that the mast be vertically plumb and solid. Mine is plumb but has a bit of wobble when I push on it. Once the guy bars are attached, it should be solid. The mast that came with the 1k.4 is much more flimsy and thin than what I have up there. The OD of the pipe is the same so that is also not an issue.

Hope it works out for you once you have it solid.
Gerry

 

[thamac]

Hey Don...I had a chance to check my dish today and here is what I have.

Tilt = 54 - Skew = 74

Hopefully that will help you out with dialing it in.

Dave

 

[TheForce]

Got the guy bars up making the mast more like a tripod and it is now rock solid. I also made sure the plumb was dead on too.

After about 2 hours I still was having trouble finding the correct skew and azimuth and elevation with the analog tuning meter. So, I decided to give an idea I had a couple weeks ago a try. It worked! I used my cell phone with the sling player and tuned it in in about 30 minutes. I ended up with signals about 46-50 on all three birds. With the mast solid there doesn't seem to be any wavering either. I plan to do some more fine adjustments this weekend.

Also, Dave- I will try your settings just to see what I get. What's your azimuth with those tilt and skew numbers?

I ended up with 167, 73, 53.

 

[Dah-Henny]

Info on the 1000.5 can be found in this thread. It is basically the D500+ reflector pan with the 1000.4 arm and LNB attached. I wonder if this would work with a SD105?

The "+" lnb arm and the 1k.4 lnb arm are identical, except for the length. These 2 lnb arms will not fit any other dish, unless you jury rig.