Please HELP...

[kalislav]

I have purchased a 90cm motorized dish with STAB HH90 motor and Pansat 3500S receiver a few days ago. The equipment arrived last Friday. I live in Cicero, NY 13039. I have tried everything and I have 0% signal quality. I have followed all steps from www.sadoun.com and I have no luck.
From stab.com:
My latitude = 43.2 N
My longitude = 76.1 W
Dish elevation w/ HH90 rotor = 38.4
Please HELP...

PS: I have Invacom Quad QPH-031 LNB on 0% skew.

 

[voomvoom]

Try posting this in the fta section and you should get more help. A moderator will probably move it there shortly anyway. Your true south would be 76.0w, and the nearest fta bird would be SBS6 at 74.0w.

Al

 

[Doctor Bob]

I have purchased a 90cm motorized dish with STAB HH90 motor and Pansat 3500S receiver a few days ago. The equipment arrived last Friday. I live in Cicero, NY 13039. I have tried everything and I have 0% signal quality. I have followed all steps from www.sadoun.com and I have no luck.
From stab.com:
My latitude = 43.2 N
My longitude = 76.1 W
Dish elevation w/ HH90 rotor = 38.4
Please HELP...
PS: I have Invacom Quad QPH-031 LNB on 0% skew.

Hey Kalislav,

We charge $450 to set up that FTA System, and if you need help, we can probably find someone in your area to help you out... write me a note: doc@swartzelinstallation.com if you want us to find a Tech for you...

 

[dfergie]

Moved to fta forum...

 

[PSB]

WELCOME to the FTA forum, I would remove the motor for now and find/store your true south satellite first!

   Cicero, NY 13039
Latitude 43° 10.242'N Longitude 76° 5.772'W

              Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m)   El  Skew
-----------------------------------------------------
  12.5°W Atlantic Bird   12.5W 108.8 122.3 10.4 -43.7
            Telstar 12   15.0W 110.7 124.2 12.1 -43.0
          Intelsat 901   18.0W 113.1 126.6 14.2 -42.1
                 NSS 7   22.0W 116.4 129.9 17.0 -40.8
          Intelsat 905   24.5W 118.5 132.0 18.7 -39.9
          Intelsat 907   27.5W 121.1 134.6 20.7 -38.6
         Hispasat 1C/D   30.0W 123.4 136.9 22.3 -37.5
          Intelsat 801   31.5W 124.8 138.3 23.3 -36.8
          Intelsat 903   34.5W 127.6 141.1 25.2 -35.3
           AMC 12/T 11   37.5W 130.6 144.1 27.0 -33.6
               NSS 806   40.5W 133.7 147.2 28.8 -31.8
             Pas 3R/6B   43.0W 136.4 149.9 30.1 -30.2
                Pas 1R   45.0W 138.6 152.1 31.2 -28.8
          Intelsat 705   50.0W 144.4 157.9 33.7 -25.1
          Intelsat 707   53.0W 148.1 161.6 35.0 -22.7
          Intelsat 805   55.5W 151.2 164.7 36.0 -20.6
                 Pas 9   58.0W 154.5 168.0 36.9 -18.3
              Amazonas   61.0W 158.5 172.0 37.9 -15.5
            EchoStar 3   61.5W 159.2 172.7 38.1 -15.0
             Rainbow 1   61.5W 159.2 172.7 38.1 -15.0
              Nahuel 1   71.8W 173.7 187.3 40.0  -4.6
             DirecTV 1   72.5W 174.8 188.3 40.1  -3.8
                 AMC 6   72.0W 174.0 187.6 40.0  -4.4
             Galaxy 12   74.0W 176.9 190.5 40.1  -2.2
                 SBS 6   74.0W 176.9 190.5 40.1  -2.2
               GOES 12   75.0W 178.4 191.9 40.2  -1.2
                 AMC 5   79.0W 184.2 197.8 40.1   3.1
             DirecTV 3   81.8W 188.3 201.8 39.9   6.0
               Nimiq 2   82.0W 188.6 202.1 39.8   6.3
          Brasilsat B3   84.0W 191.5 205.0 39.6   8.3
              AMC 2/16   85.0W 192.9 206.4 39.4   9.4
                 AMC 3   87.0W 195.7 209.3 39.0  11.4
                  IA-8   89.0W 198.5 212.0 38.5  13.4
             Galaxy 11   91.0W 201.3 214.8 38.0  15.3
             Nimiq 1/3   91.0W 201.3 214.8 38.0  15.3
          Brasilsat B4   92.0W 202.6 216.1 37.7  16.3
             Telstar 6   93.0W 203.9 217.5 37.3  17.2
             Galaxy 3C   95.0W 206.6 220.1 36.7  19.1
             Telstar 5   97.0W 209.2 222.7 35.9  20.8
             Galaxy 4R   99.0W 211.7 225.2 35.1  22.5
       DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 214.2 227.7 34.2  24.2
                 AMC 4  101.0W 214.2 227.7 34.2  24.2
            Spaceway 1  102.0W 215.4 228.9 33.8  25.0
                 AMC 1  103.0W 216.6 230.1 33.3  25.8
                AMC 15  105.0W 218.9 232.4 32.3  27.3
           Anik F1/F1R  107.3W 221.5 235.0 31.2  28.9
             DirecTV 6  109.5W 223.9 237.5 30.0  30.4
            EchoStar 6  110.0W 224.5 238.0 29.7  30.7
            EchoStar 8  110.0W 224.5 238.0 29.7  30.7
               Anik F2  111.1W 225.7 239.2 29.1  31.4
         Solidaridad 2  113.0W 227.7 241.2 28.0  32.6
              SatMex 5  116.8W 231.5 245.0 25.7  34.8
             DirecTV 5  119.0W 233.6 247.2 24.4  36.0
            EchoStar 7  119.0W 233.6 247.2 24.4  36.0
 EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 235.5 249.1 23.1  37.0
            Galaxy 10R  123.0W 237.4 250.9 21.8  37.9
             Galaxy 12  125.0W 239.2 252.7 20.5  38.8
         Galaxy 13/H 1  127.0W 240.9 254.5 19.2  39.6
  Telstar 7/Echostar 5  129.0W 242.6 256.2 17.8  40.4
                AMC 11  131.0W 244.3 257.8 16.5  41.1
             Galaxy 1R  133.0W 246.0 259.5 15.1  41.8
                AMC 10  135.0W 247.6 261.1 13.7  42.4
                 AMC 7  137.0W 249.2 262.7 12.3  43.0
                 AMC 8  139.0W 250.7 264.2 10.9  43.5
            EchoStar 1  148.0W 257.4 270.9  4.4  45.4
            EchoStar 2  148.0W 257.4 270.9  4.4  45.4
                      
............................................................
                      
 *** DBS SATELLITE ***
                      
         EchoStar 3/R1   61.5W 159.2 172.7 38.1 -15.0
          EchoStar 6/8  110.0W 224.5 238.0 29.7  30.7
            EchoStar 7  119.0W 233.6 247.2 24.4  36.0
 EchoStar 9/Telstar 13  121.0W 235.5 249.1 23.1  37.0
            EchoStar 5  129.0W 242.6 256.2 17.8  40.4
          EchoStar 1/2  148.0W 257.4 270.9  4.4  45.4
                      
               Nimiq 2   82.0W 188.6 202.1 39.8   6.3
             Nimiq 1/3   91.0W 201.3 214.8 38.0  15.3
                      
       DirecTV 1R/4S/8  101.0W 214.2 227.7 34.2  24.2
             DirecTV 5  110.0W 224.5 238.0 29.7  30.7
            DirecTV 7S  119.0W 233.6 247.2 24.4  36.0
                      

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[baya]

I have purchased a 90cm motorized dish with STAB HH90 motor and Pansat 3500S receiver a few days ago. The equipment arrived last Friday. I live in Cicero, NY 13039. I have tried everything and I have 0% signal quality. I have followed all steps from www.sadoun.com and I have no luck.
From stab.com:
My latitude = 43.2 N
My longitude = 76.1 W
Dish elevation w/ HH90 rotor = 38.4
Please HELP...
PS: I have Invacom Quad QPH-031 LNB on 0% skew.

Before you do anything with the motor, find your true south bird. Someone mention sbs6.

1. That is your first step.

Do not put the motor on the base untill you got a signal from sbs 6.

 

[kalislav]

A few more questions

Thank you all for the helpful input.
I am not using the rotor. I found the signal on SBS-6 on 74 degrees W. The quality of the signal is around 60%. Should I try to get it closer to 100%? Is is even possible to do this? Under USALS, there is the mention of Reference Position. What does that mean? When I OK the Reference Position, the Dish moves from 74 degrees W and it wiggles right to left, after which it stops and then the quality of signal drops to about 30%. What does this mean? What should I do? The Quality of Signal changes constantly, it never remains still. Is there something I can do to fix this? Any advice. Thanks a lot.

 

[PSB]

60% signal quality may be all you will get, depending on the size of dish, the quality of the LNBF and where you are in the country. Stand behind the dish and pull the top back slightly while watching the signal quality, do the same on the bottom and both sides of the dish, this will tell you you are pointed correctly. Then Skew the LNBF (rotate in holder) to see if you can get any more signal quality.
Reference Position is your true south satellite, everything in USALS is calculated from this ZERO position!

The LNBF should be straight up and down when you add the motor, and point true south.

The dish/motor moving then coming back with less signal sounds like motor backlash!

 

[ken2400]

If this is the first time you have tried to get digital Ku I would go on E-bay and get a in-line SF-95 signal meter for $10 with s&h.

After that aim the dish without the motor installed. Pick a sat say IA5 or G10R. IA5 may be eaiser? I know it will take longer but this stuff can be a pain for the first timers and aming the dish on one sat is eaier than getting the motor working. It will also show that an 1/4" can make all the difference.

I have purchased a 90cm motorized dish with STAB HH90 motor and Pansat 3500S receiver a few days ago. The equipment arrived last Friday. I live in Cicero, NY 13039. I have tried everything and I have 0% signal quality. I have followed all steps from www.sadoun.com and I have no luck.
From stab.com:
My latitude = 43.2 N
My longitude = 76.1 W
Dish elevation w/ HH90 rotor = 38.4
Please HELP...
PS: I have Invacom Quad QPH-031 LNB on 0% skew.

 

[kalislav]

If my ref. position is my true South, why when I go to any other satellite and I Ok the Ref. position, I get 0 quality signal?

 

[PSB]

Should only OK the ref. position once on your true south position!
When you motor to a new satellite try a blind scan....

 

[kalislav]

Thanks, I tried AMC-5 and it picked up a few channels but the quality of signal was so poor (under 30%) that nothing worked. I also tried other satelites and it did not work either. Is it possible that my dish is still not properly alligned? Is it possible that my rotor is moving the dish on the wrong orbit?
When everything is properly alligned, will I be able to get all of the satellites on my horizon or it is not possible?

 

[PSB]

Try a blind scan, when the dish is on a satellite stand behind the dish and pull slightly up down left and right, watch the signal quality meter, if you can get no better quality it is properly aimed.
It is possible the mast or motor angle may be off slightly, many times the weight of the dish and motor pull everything forward, the above will let you know if you are off the arc!