Pointing Dish to EA (1 Viewer)

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Good evening. I recently switched to a Hopper 3 after years of a 722k. I would take the receiver with us in the RV and never had much trouble setting up the antenna. Today, I took our Hopper 3 with a 1000.2 dish and DPH LNB, but can't seem to find 61.5 and 72 for the Hopper. I usually use a cheap satellite meter to peak the dish, but this doesn't seem to work with the hybrid LNB. I pulled out the old 722k and 1000.4 dish and hit the EA within a couple of minutes. Will the cheap satellite finder meter work with the hybrid LNB? Would appreciate any tips in pointing the dish for the Hopper 3 to use. This is my first time bringing the Hopper from the house on a TV trip. At home, we use a solo hub, but I'm connected directly between the LNB and Hopper since I won't be using a Joey in the RV.

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After not having much luck with a Accutrac 22 Pro and a First Strike FS1 with a DPH, I wouldn't put much trust is a cheap meter.

Some considerations, if the DPH is connected to a Hopper 3, it switches mode and the signals change. Obviously not acceptable to existing meters.

So far I have been aiming to the WA. From my many years with a DPP. I found that insuring I was aiming with the 119 LNBF was key and that the multi-switch in the head, it seldom defaulted to 119. Using meters that generated the 22 KHz tone selected 119. I could have used the receiver with the DPP and choosing satellite 119. Attaching the Hopper 3 could let your select a satellite but also changes the signals.

I am not sure what a EA multi-switch defaults to so I am not sure if LNBF selection signal is needed.

My solution was to bite the bullet and got a used Super Buddy meter. It is the only one I have seen so far to say that it works with a DPH. With the Super Buddy I can select the LNBF and I get positive Id of the satellite.

I usually use the Winegard Trav'ler on the roof to finds the satellites for the WA. And when we used to travel in the East, we would just live with the SD Locals on the WA. But now that Dish is removing the SD Locals from the other Arc, I am going to have to put the tripod up when in the East. Using the tripod in the East helped justify the Super Buddy.
 

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I've Been working with the Hopper 3 a lot in the last 5 months. You need to connect the Hopper to a Hybrid solo hub weather you use a Joey or not. Also, be careful with the Hybrid LMB. It has fried cheap satellite meters for me in the past. I would put the old LMB on and point the Dish, then switch it out with the Dish Hybrid LMB.
 

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I'm pretty sure JSheridan has confirmed that you do not need a solo node in-line to make a Hopper 3 work.

From what hipkat says Dish now says that techs are supposed to use a hub but like you said they're not necessary. Hopper 3's work great by themselves with no hub and the fact is that a tap is usually better to use when you only have one Joey. :)
 
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HipKat

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From what hipkat says Dish now says that techs are supposed to use a hub but like you said they're not necessary. Hopper 3's work great by themselves with no hub and the fact is that a tap is usually better to use when you only have one Joey. :)
That's how I always did it, and still not sure why Moca matters on a stand alone Hopper
 

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I have never used a Hub with my Hopper Duo, and it works perfectly fine that way.
The reason Dish insists on installing the Hub is because it blocks MoCA signals from traveling past the ODU port and reaching the LNB. While a Tap will allow MoCA signals through all ports. I don't know why but Dish doesn't want MoCA signals getting to the LNB.
 

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The reason Dish insists on installing the Hub is because it blocks MoCA signals from traveling past the ODU port and reaching the LNB. While a Tap will allow MoCA signals through all ports. I don't know why but Dish doesn't want MoCA signals getting to the LNB.

Could it be because the MoCA frequencies are in the same range as broadcast TV (OTA) frequencies and if they reach the LNBF, they may radiate out and interfere with reception of nearby OTA antennae?
 

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Could it be because the MoCA frequencies are in the same range as broadcast TV (OTA) frequencies and if they reach the LNBF, they may radiate out and interfere with reception of nearby OTA antennae?
I was thinking more along the lines of allowing the cable (from the LNB to the Hub) to be diplexed with an OTA antenna without MoCA interference.
 

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