Question re Legacy LNB with H24 receiver

[brettp]

Hello,

I purchased a legacy LNB Slimline HD SL5 dish. I would like some direction on setting this up with an H24 HD box. I will be doing this install myself due to remote location. I gather that I need a b band converter, which I have obtained. I would like some guidance on wiring everything up. Again, this setup will be only one (1) dish and one (1) receiver. The LNB has 4 ports for coaxial. Do I just pick one port and hook up directly to the converter and receiver? Or do I need 4 lengths of coax from the LNB and then feed those into a splitter or multiswitch of some sort? If the latter, what switch/splitter do I need?

Thanks!

 

[raoul5788]

to Satelliteguys brettp!

Any port in a storm, as the saying goes. You can use any of the four ports, they are the same. Make sure the mast is plumb, very important. There are many videos on youtube to guide you through the alignment process. Good luck and come on back if you need any help.

 

[Jimbo]

After you get the dish plumb .... and set up ... like Chip said, stop back with questions if you have them.
In your situation, just run coax from the dish to the recvr, however, you'll want to put the BBC right before the recvr if you want HD.
So, form LNB (any port) to BBC, BBC will connect directly to back of the recvr on Sat 1 input.

 

[brettp]

Thanks guys. I will give it a try this weekend. One thing I know I will have a question about is the settings I need to change when going through the dish setup (dish type, switch type, etc). The box is currently configured for a swm setup at my house.

 

[Jimbo]

Thanks guys. I will give it a try this weekend. One thing I know I will have a question about is the settings I need to change when going through the dish setup (dish type, switch type, etc). The box is currently configured for a swm setup at my house.

Hmmm, good luck with that, they don't always play friendly going back to legacy once its been on SWM.

 

[Claude Greiner]

Why go Legacy?

The only advantage is the fact you do not need the power inserter however if you ever want to expand the system you need more cables from the dish.

I would personally install a SWM LNB.

 

[Jimbo]

brettp, as Claude mentioned, making it a SWM set up would be easy to do.
Put in a SWM LNB, add a Power Inserter between your LNB and the recvr, at that point you don't use a BBC, also the SWM will make the recvr automatically find the dish type, and if you ever swap recvrs from the houses, there nothing to do other than connect it, not changing settings.

 

[brettp]

Many thanks for the input.

This may explain why I was getting not even a blip on the signal meters when I tried to do the sat set up the first time. After doing some reading I figured maybe that was because I didn't have the BBC. But from ya'lls comments it seems that the BBC would only prevent me from getting HD.

I ordered the dish and legacy LNB before doing my research (I thought all of the same shape were the same). If I order a swm LNB, can I use the dish I bought or is there a special dish for swm? (the dish I bought is the same shape as the one on my house which works fine). Do you think this set up will work:

DirecTV SWM SL3 LNB, Power & Splitter Green Slimline Satellite SWiM DTV LNBF 101 | eBay

 

[brettp]

I just noticed the swm dish on my roof has 3 white plastic circles (sorry, not sure what those are called) whereas the one pictured in the link only has 1. Not sure if that matters?

 

[HoTat2]

I just noticed the swm dish on my roof has 3 white plastic circles (sorry, not sure what those are called) whereas the one pictured in the link only has 1. Not sure if that matters?

The dish with 3 circles is called a "Slimline-5" (or "SL5") and can receive signals from 5 satellite locations in the sky, 99, 101, 103, 110, and 119 WL.

Whereas the SL3 in the photos (with 1 circle) is for 3 positions, 99, 101, and 103 WL.

However, DIRECTV does not use 110 WL for service in the U.S., and is only for Puerto Rico.

And 119 WL carries Spanish and other foreign language programming, SD spotbeam locals for certain markets, and a few foreign genre music only channels. So unless you have something of interest there you'll do fine with the SL3 LNB.

 

[Claude Greiner]

You do realize if your setup for SWM and try to install a Legacy LNB it will not auto detect since the receiver does not send voltage to the LNB in SWM mode.

It’s a pain to get receivers to switch back to Legacy once your in SWM mode

 

[slice1900]

You do realize if your setup for SWM and try to install a Legacy LNB it will not auto detect since the receiver does not send voltage to the LNB in SWM mode.

It’s a pain to get receivers to switch back to Legacy once your in SWM mode

No its not. Disconnect the coax and restart it. Let it fail to find the satellite then enter the satellite setup menu, set it for legacy, then re-connect the coax and hit OK (or 'continue' or whatever it is to complete the setup)

 

[Jimbo]

No its not. Disconnect the coax and restart it. Let it fail to find the satellite then enter the satellite setup menu, set it for legacy, then re-connect the coax and hit OK (or 'continue' or whatever it is to complete the setup)

And how long do you wait for it to fail finding the Sat ?
I've waited 20 minutes before and it didn't work ....
This should not take all afternoon to reset.

If someone has a quick way to do this, please post.

I've tried and had little luck.

 

[slice1900]

After a couple minutes you should be able to hit 'exit' to get it to quit searching for the satellite and be able to access the menu.

 

[Jimbo]

After a couple minutes you should be able to hit 'exit' to get it to quit searching for the satellite and be able to access the menu.

I've tried before ... rarely have any luck.

 

[Claude Greiner]

I can get it to switch, I just forget the exact procedure

 

[Jimbo]

I can get it to switch, I just forget the exact procedure

If you remember, please share !

 

[brettp]

Ok guys, I ordered and received the SWM SL3 LNB and power box. I hooked it up and when I go to repeat sat setup, when I try to navigate over to "Dish type", "RB/INTL", and "Switch Type", it goes into a screen that says "Advanced Program Guide Data" and it remains stuck there at 0% indefinitely. I hit reset and as soon as I try to navigate over to adjust the configurations I get stuck in the Advanced Program Guide Data screen. How can I get out of this to adjust the configurations if necessary?

It is currently configured as follows: Dish Type: SL3 LNB, RB/INTL: None Selected, Switch Type: SWM LNB 8 CH.

Do I even need to change any of these?

I tried going to signal meters and I moved the dish around (it is plumb) side to side and I get absolutely nothing. I started by pointing it in the general direction that the one on my house is facing.

 

[brettp]

Also, it says this at the Sat Dish Setup Screen: Azim: 200, Elev: 53, Tilt 72

 

[Jimbo]

Also, it says this at the Sat Dish Setup Screen: Azim: 200, Elev: 53, Tilt 72

These are the setting to start at with the dish ...
This has to be exact or you won't get anything.

Have you set up any D* dishes before ?

If the mast is plumb, I set the elevation and the tilt ... then slowly sweep for the Sat 101 signal.