I thought I would share an experience with all of you who have possibly purchased a box for dirt cheap like I did. I purchased a used fortec approx 3 months ago (44$), but never had time to fire it up until about 2 weeks ago. To my dismay, the box was dead on arrival (Fortec Lifetime Ultra), so I figured hey, probably a hacked box and just needs a reflash (I also tried to get my money back, but it wasn't worth the hastle). Well talk about a pain in the rear. I have flashed my digiwave using old Nagra 1 bins, just for the added features like USALS and AC3 and didn't have a problem. As for the fortec, just to find a good solid (non-hack) TRUE FTA bin out there good for FTA in a Jtag configuration was difficult at best (I tried a regular bin off of fortec site and it wouldn't program thru a jtag..another lesson I learned from this experience). I finally found one, albiet thru a semi-hack site. Oh, forgot to mention, i had to buy a jtag cable. Never did anything like this before, but it seemed pretty straight forward. Wholly cow, talk about a learning curve...using software that I've never used before. Took me numerous attempts and experiments to get the thing going, finally after about 6 hours (not continuous but over about 3 days), it worked. All in all for a box that cost me $40+ dollars, a jtag cable that might come in handy if a power surge hits and corrupts a chip $15, for $55 bucks it was worthwhile, considering a new box is about $130. Like I always say, you learn something new everyday. FYI, this is not for a newb, so if you re-flash a box with new OEM from the manufacturers site or reviving a dead box, read and ask questions and then read some more or talk to someone who has done it before. Oh ya one more thing......I wondered why the fortec was so cheap........ guess I found out.