juan said:
I'd love to know what time this was released because it sure smells like an effort to smooth the sheets out. Think it's possible they heard the beat of distant drums in the night ?.................nah, that would make too much sense.
Take a close look at what Dish has just done to us
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I'd love to know what time this was released because it sure smells like an effort to smooth the sheets out. Think it's possible they heard the beat of distant drums in the night ?.................nah, that would make too much sense.
GaryPen said:
Gary, people are listening to Dish CSR's, and worse, repeating what they say
, think about that. The only official information we have is that Dish is adding 10 V* channels. Everyone needs to calm down and wait for more solid information. If Dish does something stupid in regards to existing customers, then we can all get into angry mode again, until then everything is a rumor, and should be dismissed as such.NightRyder
What's really weird, is that they're using the Rainbow-1 satellite according to another thread. If that's the case, what's the technical block from getting all Voom21 + Universal HD, StarzHD, MaxHD and ESPN2-HD?
Is there an issue with transponders being looked at with the Dish HD receivers @ 61.5?
Cheers,
Is there an issue with transponders being looked at with the Dish HD receivers @ 61.5?
Cheers,
GaryPen said:
I agree with you, Gary. The HD pack was pretty good a year and a half ago, but you can only watch so Sunrise Earth and the 1 millionth showing of "3" so many times. Not really a baseball or NBA fan. I have been debating dropping it and picking it back up once football season starts again. If they just add the VOOM channels to the regular HD pack I would go ahead and keep it.
John Kotches said:
Same question here...I've asked the same thing in at least one other of these posts. I can understand the deal with the UHD, Starz/Max HD and ESPN2, as I assume those would need new carraige agreements. What I don't quite understand is only giving 10 of the Voom channels, saying the rest comes later this year or next. Since they are already there, why not flip the switch on all 21 of them now?
DWS44 said:
My theory is the original intent was to put some up at no change in price to the HD package along with a special promo to get the Voom subs and possibly even pull over some "D" customers. Then feed the others channels in strategically durning the year to "justify" a price increase and offset things "D" will be doing. In other words - milk it for all it's worth.
Then maybe Chuck, because of the response over the last 24 hours, couldn't resist the chance for some quick $$$.
Side note: An executive office CSR (Kristan) told me yesterday that the 942 lease deal for existing customers has been pushed back a few months. So with all this new HD coming (and probably along with it an increased demand for an HD DVR), existing customers will only have the option of paying $700. Yep, sure makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
Don't bring charles aka chuck dolan into this whole thing. He & Tom have both been on unpaid leave from Cablevision since the 18th and he's not up for relection to the board. Instead he's nominated his daughter.waltinvt\ said:My theory is the original intent was to put some up at no change in price to the HD package along with a special promo to get the Voom subs and possibly even pull over some "D" customers. Then feed the others channels in strategically durning the year to "justify" a price increase and offset things "D" will be doing. In other words - milk it for all it's worth.
Then maybe Chuck, because of the response over the last 24 hours, couldn't resist the chance for some quick $$$.
Side note: An executive office CSR (Kristan) told me yesterday that the 942 lease deal for existing customers has been pushed back a few months. So with all this new HD coming (and probably along with it an increased demand for an HD DVR), existing customers will only have the option of paying $700. Yep, sure makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
What a shame The original plan actually had merit. Now ol charlie just wants to screw over his customers much like cable does!!!waltinvt\ said:My theory is the original intent was to put some up at no change in price to the HD package along with a special promo to get the Voom subs and possibly even pull over some "D" customers. Then feed the others channels in strategically durning the year to "justify" a price increase and offset things "D" will be doing. In other words - milk it for all it's worth.
Then maybe Chuck, because of the response over the last 24 hours, couldn't resist the chance for some quick $$$.
Side note: An executive office CSR (Kristan) told me yesterday that the 942 lease deal for existing customers has been pushed back a few months. So with all this new HD coming (and probably along with it an increased demand for an HD DVR), existing customers will only have the option of paying $700. Yep, sure makes me feel warm and fuzzy.
I understand why those of you with Dish might not think all those new HD channels are worth a damn; afterall, with Dish you never got a chance to soak in the diversity of programming on Voom NOR the apparent superior picture quality. 4 or 5 channels were probably like a frustrating tease. While it's easy to dig on the 'unusual' content of Voom's 21, I found it to be a superior change up from the 'Do it Yourself' and repetitive sports and 'same old' news channels.
We are addicted to EquatorHD and relish in the 'just like being there' concerts EVERY NIGHT on Rave.
Using an antenna for locals meant more bandwidth on the sat and more HDTV channels. Beides, the tuner in the Motorla from Voom was BETTER than the tuner in my way too expensive Pioneer Elite plasma.
Virtually every complaint about Voom was from customers waiting for installs; once they got it the noise stopped. The enthusiasm shared by Voom's customer base was never evident with D* or E* clients. The comments I've seen here discounting the Voom service sound like Ford Escort owners not understanding what the big deal is about driving an Aston Martin--never having done it.
I am glad that now you will get the chance to see what you have been missing.
Notwithsatanding Voom's numbskull marketing strategy (who thought Sears would be a good vehicle for marketing??!!??); if you'd had a taste early on you'd have switched in a hot second and Voom would still be around, with all of us laughing at those still trying to tune their HiDef TV's to improve the look of SD ESPN.
Go ahead and drop the extra few bucks a month--it's worth it. Only a few of us ex-Voomers might give you the 'Told You So' treeatment. Even then, Dish will have to go a stretch to be as good as Voom.
We are addicted to EquatorHD and relish in the 'just like being there' concerts EVERY NIGHT on Rave.
Using an antenna for locals meant more bandwidth on the sat and more HDTV channels. Beides, the tuner in the Motorla from Voom was BETTER than the tuner in my way too expensive Pioneer Elite plasma.
Virtually every complaint about Voom was from customers waiting for installs; once they got it the noise stopped. The enthusiasm shared by Voom's customer base was never evident with D* or E* clients. The comments I've seen here discounting the Voom service sound like Ford Escort owners not understanding what the big deal is about driving an Aston Martin--never having done it.
I am glad that now you will get the chance to see what you have been missing.
Notwithsatanding Voom's numbskull marketing strategy (who thought Sears would be a good vehicle for marketing??!!??); if you'd had a taste early on you'd have switched in a hot second and Voom would still be around, with all of us laughing at those still trying to tune their HiDef TV's to improve the look of SD ESPN.
Go ahead and drop the extra few bucks a month--it's worth it. Only a few of us ex-Voomers might give you the 'Told You So' treeatment. Even then, Dish will have to go a stretch to be as good as Voom.
From a business standpoint this was genious. They announced the Voom package with no mention of the price at first. THIS WAS INTENTIONAL
Then they saw the demand and excitment. Echostar measured it and made a caculated decision on how the pricing would then be implimented.
There is a reason E* is profitable and C Ergan is one of the richest men in America. He is a savy businessman.
If D* comes out with the Voom originals at a lower cost E* will beat it. This is your only hope. E* is the low cost provider and will beat D* on price if it is only a penny in some cases.
Then they saw the demand and excitment. Echostar measured it and made a caculated decision on how the pricing would then be implimented.
There is a reason E* is profitable and C Ergan is one of the richest men in America. He is a savy businessman.
If D* comes out with the Voom originals at a lower cost E* will beat it. This is your only hope. E* is the low cost provider and will beat D* on price if it is only a penny in some cases.
BFG said:It will be $5 for the package of 10 Voom Original Channels.
You have to get the Dish HD Package at $9.99 to add on the voom channels.
You have to have a dish at 61.5 to get the voom channels.
End of Story.
This "new" dish (they won't let you use the old VOOM dish) will cost $100--for new customers--so much for No equipment costs, No Installation Feeds, No Committment, etc--with this scenario, where I live, I would need 3 dishes to get everything I would be paying for in the Dish package! A real insult to VOOMERS and New (would-be) customers.
HD channels are going to be more expensive right now since it is going to be seen as a premium. Until HD becomes more of the norm (all HD) they will always be considered a premium.
No problems with 61.5's transponders. E* STILL doesn't want to go all out at this time with so many changes coming in just a few months. It STILL comes down to the fact that every HD customer added is another HD customer who will need to change their receivers in 4-6 months. Adding the full 21 and all the other 'missing' HDs just makes that upgrade problem worse.John Kotches said:
All they really have to do is keep the customers interested until the new receivers are ready and E10 is launched in the fall. 10 channels is enough to do that.
Besides, when everyone sees the jump to $14.99+ for the HD pack in the fall it will be nicer to add in another dozen channels along with the Voom10.
JL
bookwalk said:
Easy solution, don't sign up!
Geez what a bunch of whiners. E* won't give me everything for free waah..waah
NightRyder
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