Time clock is not keeping time for me

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I finally got a DC power cord for the microHD so I am finally getting ready to record. I set the clock to GMT which should mean it is automatic setting. However, as I change channels and transponders on 97W KU the various transponders is different. GOD-TV is correct time 7:43 PM, Church channel shows 08:04 PM.

Am I doing something wrong? I have set up to record with two weekly timers, but it does not appear right, but might be. It shows one date rather than day of the week. 07-23-2012 for 1st 08:30 PM for 00:29 ; 2nd 07-24-2012 for 08:30 for 00:29 instead of Monday and Tuesday.:confused:

Is this OK or a bug?
 
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What I do is go to an accurate channel such as GodTV and turn the GMT on and set the proper zone to get accurate local time. Then I turn the GMT off and the time stays accurate until the power is interrupted. If there is a better way, I have yet to happen upon it.
 
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Off grid, even on heavy batteries, power can go down at any time. The 1100c locks the time to one TP and it does not matter which you switch to. Also, after a power restore, the time check reverts to the same transponder - the first one on the absolute list - and it appears that if it the first one on the list, you can ignore that transponder and it still works.
 
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Time setting is not a bug or an issue.

If GMT is selected ON, the unit currently references the time of the selected channel's transponder. If the power is interrupted, the receiver will restart to the same channel selected and set the time to that transponder.

If GMT is OFF, the microHD keeps the set time internally as long as the power is supplied. If the DC is interrupted it resets back to the preset time.

Currently, the best way to assure that the timer is correct and you are unsure if your power will remain on, set the receiver to GMT ON and park the receiver on a channel transponder with accurate time (such as 11842). Any power outages and the STB will return to this channel and the time will be set. When a timer ends, the receiver will return to this same channel. Timing and timers will stay available as long as power is available at the time the timer is set to run.

We will be activating the option to sync GMT to channel #1 position in a future firmware release.
 
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OK, thanks. Are Daystar and GOD-TV on a sync'd (accurate) transponder? They appear to be. And with that answer, When I set a recording, does the receiver change to the last RECORDED channel or the one I go to standby on? If the later I will leave one microHD here near the batteries as we go on the road. Other wise I will have to leave the 1100c on the inverter, but something went wrong with it this AM and I did not get my morning recordings. (no storm, not even strong winds last night.)
 
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Time setting is not a bug or an issue.

If GMT is selected ON, the unit currently references the time of the selected channel's transponder. If the power is interrupted, the receiver will restart to the same channel selected and set the time to that transponder.

If GMT is OFF, the microHD keeps the set time internally as long as the power is supplied. If the DC is interrupted it resets back to the preset time.

Currently, the best way to assure that the timer is correct and you are unsure if your power will remain on, set the receiver to GMT ON and park the receiver on a channel transponder with accurate time (such as 11842). Any power outages and the STB will return to this channel and the time will be set. When a timer ends, the receiver will return to this same channel. Timing and timers will stay available as long as power is available at the time the timer is set to run.

We will be activating the option to sync GMT to channel #1 position in a future firmware release.
I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here so I will post my interpretation and you can correct me. :)

With GMT ON you're potentially resetting the clock with every channel change. But with it OFF you lose correct time with power outage.

So the way to make sure it doesn't miss your timers is to always go to a predetermined channel, one where you observed that it previously had set the correct time, when you are done watching for the day. If you forget that, the time will probably be wrong and your timers misfire. If you're watching a channel on a transponder with incorrect time and one of your timers should fire, it probably won't.

You're saying it's not really a "bug" but it will be addressed by picking a particular satellite/transponder for it to rely on instead of just whatever the current satellite/transponder has.

Is that about right? Sorry to seem obtuse about it but sometimes obvious things aren't.
 
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I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here so I will post my interpretation and you can correct me. :)

With GMT ON you're potentially resetting the clock with every channel change. But with it OFF you lose correct time with power outage.

So the way to make sure it doesn't miss your timers is to always go to a predetermined channel, one where you observed that it previously had set the correct time, when you are done watching for the day. If you forget that, the time will probably be wrong and your timers misfire. If you're watching a channel on a transponder with incorrect time and one of your timers should fire, it probably won't.

You're saying it's not really a "bug" but it will be addressed by picking a particular satellite/transponder for it to rely on instead of just whatever the current satellite/transponder has.

Is that about right?

My head is spinning, but ..... Yes, you are correct in your interpretation.

A bug would be placing the unit in standby and losing the time reference....;)

Referencing time to only sync to a specific transponder is a unique feature that GEOSATpro introduced to the world market on the DSR100, 200 and DVR1100 model receivers. To my knowledge no other FTA receiver has ever provided this feature. This feature is being developed for the microHD as we work on additional functions to support the Glorystar mode. The function is planned for a future release for the hobbyist mode as well.
 
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If you put GMT ON it takes the time signal from the transponder that you are on. Since most stations we are not the intended audience the time is usually never right. There was a sports feed I regularly watched (North Dakota hockey games) and the time always defaulted to like the year 2037 and be off clock wise by like 14 hours. And the Coolsat 5000 I had did this no matter if clock was set to on or off.

So the way to make sure it doesn't miss your timers is to always go to a predetermined channel, one where you observed that it previously had set the correct time, when you are done watching for the day. If you forget that, the time will probably be wrong and your timers misfire. If you're watching a channel on a transponder with incorrect time and one of your timers should fire, it probably won't.
unless your power goes out alot once the time is set just turn GMT off. It will keep accurate time regardless of what channel you're on.

The 3ABN mux (11842) has the time correct mainly due to the Glorystar product. If you have a Geosat receiver (not the Micro) and have it in Glorystar mode (which is pretty much plug and play) there is a static screen that says "Welcome to Glorystar" on channel 1. That is on the 11842 TP so even if power is lost the receiver reboots on channel 1 and the clock is fixed right away.
 
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I am aware of the Glorystar time correction. Specifically:

M-F I record TBN for 29 minutes starting at 8:00 AM
Thu I record TBN for 29 minutes starting at 8:30 AM
Sun I record TBN for 29 minutes starting at 6:00 PM

If I set the 1100c in GS mode it always did the recording perfectly even with any interruption in power as 001 was a Glorystar default restart channel. **
With the microHD TBN time is off by 22 minutes currently. If the micro powers down when on a good clock TP the time will come back up and on time. OK!
Question 1. after shutting off from a timed record does it go back to the ORIGINAL stand by channel by design, or will it go to stand by on the last Recorded channel (TBN in my instance) ?
Question 2. Since we do watch Daystar, GOD-TV, and Sonlife quite a bit -- Although the TV may not be on the RECORDING microHD, in the work shop, (AC TV is in the shop where the recorder is - not in the MH), if we had been watching one of those, are they on accurate TPs, if I were to forget to set back - or more accurately could I leave it on ONE of those? (Or is Adventist the only one it will work on?)

If I was set up with more than one TV I could probably take time and figure it out. Since right now I only have one DC cord - I will get another as we go on the road. (100 miles to the store that has them?)

** Other than when I have a media problem - or a glitch like this AM.
 
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With the microHD TBN time is off by 22 minutes currently.
Either because the receiver is on a channel with incorrect time, the time was incorrectly saved or the power was removed with the receiver in the GMT- OFF mode

Question 1. after shutting off from a timed record does it go back to the ORIGINAL stand by channel by design, or will it go to stand by on the last Recorded channel (TBN in my instance) ?
Page 56 Returns to the channel or mode that the unit was in prior to the recording.

Question 2. Since we do watch Daystar, GOD-TV, and Sonlife quite a bit -- Although the TV may not be on the RECORDING microHD, in the work shop, (AC TV is in the shop where the recorder is - not in the MH), if we had been watching one of those, are they on accurate TPs, if I were to forget to set back - or more accurately could I leave it on ONE of those? (Or is Adventist the only one it will work on?)
Don't know how accurate other channels are as we do not reference their time. TP 11842 is accurate to the millisecond as we have worked with the uplinker to assure this accuracy for the Glorystar reference and updating.


Other than when I have a media problem - or a glitch like this AM.
Was it really a glitch? Was the receiver on a channel or in a time mode that did not provide the correct time?
 
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The answers I needed --Thank you. I trust they will work. I will select 11842, then. I will set the recording MicroHD next to the battery bank. I WILL put a big sign on the TV power switch, reminding me to turn it back to the proper default channel! (my printer is not working on the inverter, (or really right on the generator0 so I only have the manual on PDF screen and it is harder to search and can not bookmark.) I thought it had done something else, one time so I did not want to trust my memory. Thanks again.

TBN record this AM was on 1100c. it was the glitch we talked about in GS forum, earlier.
The time I am looking at, showing the 22 mins off is on the info screen on TBN and Church Channel.

Now back to building a "NPRM" or Rough Ground Portable Mount. RGPM! Trying to take pictures for a review of a traveling setup.
 
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The microHD has done program recording correctly for 2 days. So that is great. I am presently finishing up the programing of the times.

The 1100c has not recorded the last 2 days! So, the microHD came just in time. I am going to disconnect the 1100c and store it for a few weeks until I can get back to it and do some more testing.

Unlike the 1100c, the microHD does not require the default (time Keeping) channel to be in position 1 !!! :) Yeah! The first ORDERED 12 VDC power cord arrived today. It took me about 20 minutes to get the microHD moved, and the cables hooked up then re-powered and I did not lose anything! Another big PLUS for off grid / RVing. When I have time, I will use my questions and answers and my other comments to write the promised review. Since I am not trying to do any exhaustive scanning - just being able to watch favorites on the road, this has already proven itself to do exactly what I wanted. The only thing not yet tested is on the road antenna alignment! It does get hot in the cupboard - do not know yet if that will be a problem. I can leave the cupboard open while using it, as I will have to open the cupboard to turn it on or off, so could leave it open while watching, -- unless -- MOM wants it closed to look better - or to keep the cats out of the overhead.

I still have not had time to build a mount for the new antenna -- and the old mount for the Primestar got driven over (well to get a service truck out of the mud), then used for a step, so I will have to get the mount built today.
 
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Glitch of some sort ... microHD showed recording, but when it was over would not playback and the previous 2 days were gone. appears the USB thumb drive has been corrupted. Do not think it was a power problem, but it could be. Could it be the heat? Will keep testing! AND the 1100c is working again, was unplugged for about 6 hours and recorded both programs this morning. Taking one microHD with me on the road. Leaving the other one in the big shed.... But the time is still correct. Confused but still learning.
 
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Not sure if this is what happened in your case.... I have observed on many PVR units that if the available memory space is exceed the index gets corrupted. Put the USB on a computer and see if the files appear or if first aid can fix.

Maybe not reference another receiver's recordings or issues??? It becomes very difficult to figure out what recording did what on which.... :cool:
 
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Maybe not reference another receiver's recordings or issues??? It becomes very difficult to figure out what recording did what on which.... :cool:

agreed. While both receivers say Geosat since the guts/menus are different it could have some issues.
Thats why I have one USB drive here just for the Micro :)
 
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I have separate drives for each receiver. I do not have first aid program any more. Last one was for Windows (95?). The computer would not even bring up the thumb from the micro. It said unrecognized. The micro brought it up but it looked almost like a debug dump from the old days. I reformatted the thumb drive before I thought that someone might be able to recover it. The format appeared to work.

The 1100c still had a newly formatted thumb drive on it, and I plugged it back in last night, and the sound came on this AM at the right time and recorded both programs OK. I am going to leave it on top of the shelf and not talk about it here as it is operating separately with the older TV which, it turned out, only lost the RF input in the storm, composite is still working - which I found out when I hooked that up just to keep the cables out of the way.

It was HOT yesterday and today is to be +5 degrees and tomorrow another +5. Already showing 97 on one thermometer outside. 89 on another and over 82 inside. Not even noon yet.
 

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