Tivo Statement on Echostar Lawsuit
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Wow, this will be an interesting read from the patent office. I wonder how much of the patent they will reject... I wonder if they will finally resolve this before the patent expires.
THAT would be WONDERFUL news for DISH! Then they would have no more excuses about charging the 5.98 dvr fee PER RECEIVER. They could finally drop it and only charge you one dvr fee per account like the competition does!
WAIT ! This is DISH we are talking about. THe home of the lowest Digital price /confusion packs with hd + plat included for $10.00, no now this hour it's only for new subs. Besides Charlie likes the extra fees and I am sure he would never give them up , even if he gained more subs because of it.
This could be the Lifeboat coming to tug the sinking ship to saftey. I hope so! This Lawsuit has hurt dish more than what anyone knows.
The PTO rejected the two TiVo's software claims, not the patent. But since E* only infringed on the two software claims, it is the game changing decision. TiVo will appeal this decision, but the appeal process will take years.
At the meantime, I think E* may ask the courts to stay all related litigations pending TiVo's appeal. Any lawyers?
If ultimately the PTO's decison is unheld, that will mean E* was "wrongly" ordered to pay TiVo that $105M damages
At the meantime, I think E* may ask the courts to stay all related litigations pending TiVo's appeal. Any lawyers?
If ultimately the PTO's decison is unheld, that will mean E* was "wrongly" ordered to pay TiVo that $105M damages
The PTO rejected the two TiVo's software claims, not the patent. But since E* only infringed on the two software claims, it is the game changing decision. TiVo will appeal this decision, but the appeal process will take years.
At the meantime, I think E* may ask the courts to stay all related litigations pending TiVo's appeal. Any lawyers?
If ultimately the PTO's decison is unheld, that will mean E* was "wrongly" ordered to pay TiVo that $105M damages
Wouldn't that mean TIVO would have to pay back the 105m to DISH ? LOoks like CHarlie being stubborn and fighting these lawsuits would pay off again. Any one remember what happened with the distant lawsuit a few years back?
I remember reading about it one time long time ago but forgot what happened with the distant lawsuit. Can you give us a quick short version? Thanks MikeD-C05.
Eventually, Charlie and Echostar LOST the Distants suit, and can NOT provide ANY distant service to ANYONE. This is why they have the AAD stuff. Also, it's why Significantly Viewed DMA's aren't on Dish at all.
Yes that is true but there was a little more to it then that. Charlie was going to pay each network Abc ,Nbc,Cbs and Fox , a large penalty fee to keep the ability to keep broadcasting distants. FOX network led by Rupert Murdoch and who was the owner of DIRECTV at the time, blocked the deal and refused to sign on for obvious personal/business reasons . Charlie pulled an unexpected hail Mary pass and signed a deal with All American Direct to provide distants by leasing a transponder to them. DISH still is able to provide distants to its customers via AAD now in both sd and now HD. He also makes money on leasing the transponders each month to AAD. The networks went to court and the judge said yes it was legal for DISH to subcontract with AAD to provide distants , since they were two separate companies. Rupert Murdoch lost again, and none of the networks got any penalty money at all. So his stubborn attitude about never giving up and fighting lawsuits paid off in the end. Not to mention that DISH got to sell distants all those years before this decision to anyone that wanted them and made a lot of money.
The same will be true now if TIVO has no patent claims . DISH will win their lawsuit and I would gather that TIVO would have to repay the $105 million if the original court decision was wrong based on the new information by the patent office. Charlie wins again and gets his money back that he paid . DISH keeps all their dvr receivers running and the company looks good in the public's eyes. TIvo goes down again.
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Good question. Maybe DirecTV will pump more money into them. But in today's economy, I think Tivo's best option is to cut a deal or get absorbed. Excuse me, "assimilated."
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