Thanks for the help dishcomm. Claude called me last week and tried to explain things to me. I didn't take in everything he said, but today he has cleared it up in this thread. I don't mind paying for the second dish. It is just the principle thing that erks me. If a channel is listed in Dishes packages then they should provide it, even if it requires a second dish. For my zip code and all the packages I want I need all four LNBs on a 1000+. It is bad enough that i will have to manually switch the 61.5 and 129 coax at the DPP44 switch depending on what we want to watch. But, I am willing to do that. I think Dish needs to build a Super DPP44 switch that can handle 5 or more satellites. I think that is where the real problem lies with DishTV. Thanks again.