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AirTV with the external hard drive would be the way to go - but only if it had 4 tuners instead of 2.

The other thing I like is the ability to put it anywhere on your network, or even at a remote location, and the experience is the same. I have my AirTV located at work, where OTA signal is better than at my house. This also frees up an HDMI port on my home entertainment system.

It would be cool if you could have multiple AirTV's on the same account. Then I could put one at my parents' house in Ohio and integrate the Dayton & Columbus locals into my guide. I don't think this is possible, though.
 

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The other thing I like is the ability to put it anywhere on your network, or even at a remote location, and the experience is the same. I have my AirTV located at work, where OTA signal is better than at my house. This also frees up an HDMI port on my home entertainment system.

It would be cool if you could have multiple AirTV's on the same account. Then I could put one at my parents' house in Ohio and integrate the Dayton & Columbus locals into my guide. I don't think this is possible, though.

I can do that with my Tablo. Just messing with you, as we had this conversation. Different strokes for different folks.
 

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The other thing I like is the ability to put it anywhere on your network, or even at a remote location, and the experience is the same. I have my AirTV located at work, where OTA signal is better than at my house. This also frees up an HDMI port on my home entertainment system.

It would be cool if you could have multiple AirTV's on the same account. Then I could put one at my parents' house in Ohio and integrate the Dayton & Columbus locals into my guide. I don't think this is possible, though.

I can do that with my Tablo. Just messing with you, as we had this conversation. Different strokes for different folks.

I both like and dislike this type of design that the Tablo, AirTV, and Recast have. It does solve problems and add flexibility, but when a firmware upgrade or something else goes wrong on the DVR itself where it cannot talk to the network or the app, how do you get any diagnostic information out of it without any display output?
 
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I both like and dislike this type of design that the Tablo, AirTV, and Recast have. It does solve problems and add flexibility, but when a firmware upgrade or something else goes wrong on the DVR itself where it cannot talk to the network or the app, how do you get any diagnostic information out of it without any display output?

Well, so far it hasn't crashed (yet). As far as I can tell it only checks for software updates if you open the mobile app, but I'll keep you posted on that as I continue to use it.
 
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Spent a great deal of time reading reviews on these different Tivo models today, and the consensus among reviewers (CNET, et all) feel that Tivo is behind the curve and that Fire Recast and AirTV are superior. Since my AirTV is currently working (and well), I'm staying put :)
Yeah, even TiVo lovers on the TCF really do like the Recast and some have even REPLACED their TiVo for OTA with the Fire Recast and a big reason is the NO FEES. No question that TiVo is the far more feature rich DVR that can handle more simultaneous viewings and, but that is not always an important factor for some TiVo owners who decide to invest in Fire Recast for their OTA needs. In fact, there was a thread on the TCF that pretty much took Dave Zats to task for his negativity in his impressions of the Fire Recast. TiVo is an excellent DVR, but today for OTA DVR purposes, I would recommend a Fire Recast for its relatively low price and no additional fees, and Amazon aint going out of business anytime soon.
 

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I must be one of the few that love it.
As an owner of S3-S5 TiVo's, I will NEVER go to Hydra because it KILLS transfers between DVR's. It, of course, allows streaming, but I often move recordings around between an S3 that is primary recorder than transfer it to an S5 to watch or for storage. TiVo is just deprecating older TiVo models, AGAIN.
 

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The thing about Tivo is the $20 monthly fee. I think that seems high. And the Fire Recast only works with Amazon devices. If you're all-Roku, you're out of luck.
Well, there are some who were Roku only, but they got Fire Sticks to view the Recast content. The Fire Sticks are mighty economical to allow purchasing multiple Fire Sticks at one time and they don't take up room on the shelf, but instead plug directly into the HDMI port. In fact, buying several Fire Sticks is far, far less expensive then getting a TiVo DVR and Mini's. And FWIW, Fire has the Slingbox Player and Dish Anywhere apps, which Roku does not. To watch a Slingbox on a Roku requires a mobile device to establish the connection and control the remote Slingbox, but it is very flaky at times, while Fire has the real full proper app with all its menus and is rock solid, and the Dish Anywhere app on Fire allows for real HD on a big HDTV at a remote location that is easier to establish and control. I used to be a Roku fan, but I've found Fire to be superior in specs and for my needs. Roku is a good product, but does not meet my needs and desires anymore.
 
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According to the Amazon page recast only support 720p output. Does it skip commercials, didn't see anything about that.

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What output resolution does Fire TV Recast support?

Fire TV Recast is capable of receiving all ATSC broadcast resolutions, including 1080i and 720p. When streaming to other devices, Fire TV Recast transcodes 1080i streams to a resolution up to 1440x720p using H.264 to ensure that all Fire TV streaming media players work with Fire TV Recast, and to deliver more reliable video streams over Wi-Fi.
 

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According to the Amazon page recast only support 720p output. Does it skip commercials, didn't see anything about that.

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What output resolution does Fire TV Recast support?

Fire TV Recast is capable of receiving all ATSC broadcast resolutions, including 1080i and 720p. When streaming to other devices, Fire TV Recast transcodes 1080i streams to a resolution up to 1440x720p using H.264 to ensure that all Fire TV streaming media players work with Fire TV Recast, and to deliver more reliable video streams over Wi-Fi.

Correct, 720p only. You can skip 30 seconds forward and 10 seconds back, like the Hopper, but it doesn't have any auto-hop-like features at this time.
 
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