What do you guys think about Direct HD Expansion

[skottey]

you paid 300 bucks for DVR's? Mine was free, still haven't paid a dime for the rental fee since October either, or HD Access fee. I'd sue, they ripped you off, on top of breaking their promise.

I signed up last spring before they changed the deal. It was $100 for the first HD-DVR and $200 for the second. Then they changed the deal in June I think. At that point in time i was getting fed up with Bright House Networks not so much as having the flagship Cinemax, TMC, or Starz in HD and I had canceled my Dish Network service in late 2007 or early 2008. Thankfully, I wasn't in a Dish contract.

At that point in time, it didn't look like I'd be getting FIOS in my city until late 09 or 2010. But I was fortunatel enough to get it in November 2008. I was in a contract with DirecTV for two years so I got rid of the premiums and natrually carried them with FIOS. I reduced my package to the Choice Extra HD.

I have to say that after having FIOS, DirecTV, BHN, and Dish Network, my favorite DVR is definately the DirecTV DVR. FIOS has the best channel selection and PQ, but the guide and DVR suck.

Now I record all my premium stuff on FIOS, since that is where I carry them, and record network and basic cable shows on the wonderful DirecTV HD-DVRs. It works out well but my small FIOS DVRs still fill up fast.

I also like that you can schedule the DVR recordings online with DirecTV and watch the DVR on the PC for some stuff. This is all stuff that you have to pay extra for with FIOS and I don't take advantage of.

If DirecTV had all the premiums in HD, I would consider them the perfect provider just about.

 

[skottey]

Actually I don't really want the channel, I just want more premiums less.

Dude... you are pretty selfish... I'm serious.

 

[dslate69]

i like your attitude. no reason why ALL customers can't be pleased, instead of just the sports fans

Again, Direct can make all the Sports fans, Premium fans, hell even PPV fans happy for all I care. I just want them to make their BASIC packages customers happy first. As soon as they add all the available BASIC HD channels they can move on to skinamax for you.
Basic business is to do the least that affects the most. Adding one HD channel to the BASIC package will positively affect more D* subs than adding another softcore cinemax channel that few subscribe to. That's just a fact, no matter how you slice it.

 

[skottey]

ok skottey, you've said u got FiOs 10 times now, we get it. DirecTV lied abotu more HBO and MAX in HD 2 years ago, no ones disagreeing with u there. they did the same with the Comcast owned channels too. you're starting to sound like a broken record. if FiOs ever gets here I'll be very interested in gettin em. til then its pointless to keep talkin about em on a DirecTV board.

haha... I'm on your side and you are repeating yourself too

I am bringing up the FIOS thing simply to prove that I am not selfish. Some people only read the latest post, not the entire thread. The more I read, the more I am reminded of the DTV HBO/MAX June 2007 press release LIE! HAHAHA.. I'll stop going to bat for you if you like.

Wait, arent' you a sports fan? Isn't that the Tigers logo? Why do you want the premiums? You subscribe to DirecTV for the great sports. Jerk!

 

[skottey]

Again, Direct can make all the Sports fans, Premium fans, hell even PPV fans happy for all I care. I just want them to make their BASIC packages customers happy first. As soon as they add all the available BASIC HD channels they can move on to skinamax for you.
Basic business is to do the least that affects the most. Adding one HD channel to the BASIC package will positively affect more D* subs than adding another softcore cinemax channel that few subscribe to. That's just a fact, no matter how you slice it.

You are absolutely right. QVC HD would make a huge impact on the basic subscriber base of DirecTV.

 

[dslate69]

Dude... you are pretty selfish... I'm serious.

So very weak.
Explain to me how my wanting more HD in the packages that EVERYONE subscribes to is selfish and you wanting more HD in PREMIUM packages that a few like YOURSELF subscribe to in NOT.

Intelligent argument coming? I won't get my hopes up.

 

[TomCat4680]

haha... I'm on your side and you are repeating yourself too

I am bringing up the FIOS thing simply to prove that I am not selfish. Some people only read the latest post, not the entire thread. The more I read, the more I am reminded of the DTV HBO/MAX June 2007 press release LIE! HAHAHA.. I'll stop going to bat for you if you like.

Wait, arent' you a sports fan? Isn't that the Tigers logo? Why do you want the premiums? You subscribe to DirecTV for the great sports. Jerk!

i like some sports, not all, all i need is the national sports channels and FSD HD. i've never subscribed to any out of market sports packages and i never will. i canceled sports pack and traded it for Skinemax, best decision i ever made. i'd rather watch premiums over sports any day.

 

[skottey]

So very weak.
Explain to me how my wanting more HD in the packages that EVERYONE subscribes to is selfish and you wanting more HD in PREMIUM packages that a few like YOURSELF subscribe to in NOT.

Intelligent argument coming? I won't get my hopes up.

Actually, I don't subscribe to any premiums with DirecTV.

It isn't that you want more HD in the basic package that is the problem. It is that you specifically DON'T want HD in the premium packages that makes you selfish. You think adding HD premiums is a waste because of DVRs. I've already explained that not all premium multichannels are the same stuff repeated. I also mentioned that DirecTV promised 13 of the HBO/MAX HD multichannels in a June 2007 press release. But that doesn't matter to you. You'd rather they add anything basic as opposed to fulfilling their HBO promise. I'd say that is pretty selfish. You'd take from somebody else in favor of something that benefits you. You are looking at your needs and desires, and seem to have no regard for your fellow DirecTV subscribers. Not cool.

 

[TomCat4680]

thats what i said skottey. pure narcissistic, selfish, hypocrisy and nothing else. if he gets what he wants, justice is served. but if he doesn't want it, its just a waste of bandwidth.

 

[dslate69]

Actually, I don't subscribe to any premiums with DirecTV.

It isn't that you want more HD in the basic package that is the problem. It is that you specifically DON'T want HD in the premium packages that makes you selfish. You think adding HD premiums is a waste because of DVRs. I've already explained that not all premium multichannels are the same stuff repeated. I also mentioned that DirecTV promised 13 of the HBO/MAX HD multichannels in a June 2007 press release. But that doesn't matter to you. You'd rather they add anything basic as opposed to fulfilling their HBO promise. I'd say that is pretty selfish. You'd take from somebody else in favor of something that benefits you. You are looking at your needs and desires, and seem to have no regard for your fellow DirecTV subscribers. Not cool.

HBO 20 having different content is irrelevant to the argument and is why I ignored it as the point is a small % of D* subs pay for it.
Adding HD channels for a select few instead of waiting to add those after the ones are added for the masses is your position and is selfish. Your accusing me of being selfish for wanting to wait to please the few after they please the masses is moronic.
Carry on with the premium pep rally.

 

[skottey]

HBO 20 having different content is irrelevant to the argument and is why I ignored it as the point is a small % of D* subs pay for it.

I am not sure what HBO 20 is. Do you mean HBO 2. Do you mean the entire suite of HBO multichannels? Be more specific please.

HBO 20 having different content is irrelevant to the argument and is why I ignored it as the point is a small % of D* subs pay for it.

Irrelevant to the argument?

You said- "That is where a DVR turns one HBO into as many as you need"

You said- "All the extra premiums show the same crap at different times. Doesn't a DVR solve what ever problem not having the others creates? Answer: YES"

How is it not relevant to the argument when your ignorance is shining through by saying that all premiums show the same "crap" at different times and that a DVR solves the problem. You are WRONG. They do not all show the same content, so it is very relevant. I already explained the differences between HBO and HBO Comedy and others. Back in the early 90's it was the same stuff at different times. Not so these days. What you say is a fallacy. You are ignorant on the subject. Having one HBO doesn't cover your bases with a DVR.

a small % of D* subs pay for it.
Adding HD channels for a select few

Select few? Only a select few subscribe to HBO? First off, more existing customers would subscribe to the premium channels if they upped the number of HD premiums. Secondly, they would gain new subscribers to DirecTV as a whole. Thirdly, they would retain existing customers (self included with my second home in the country). Fourth, they would be fulfilling a promise as stated in the June of 2007 press release by adding the 13 HD HBO/MAX channels. Fifth, the percentage of people the RSN HDs impact is far less than the impact of adding any given HD premium. Even The Movie Channel has larger ratings at any given time than FSN Detroit, FSN Ohio, FSN South, FSN Florida, etc. If we are talking about a high school mentality popularity contest, then what are they doing adding sports channels that largely impact only a small market? Let's get real here, the premiums are VERY popular and they would be making subscribers happy in more ways than one if they added the promised HBO/MAX HD channels and additional premiums in HD. You are fighting a losing battle. What exactly do you want to see added?
You won't even just say, "scrap six PPVs and add 3 HBO/MAX channels and 3 nationals such as AMC, G4, Fuse, etc." You want them to add every available HD national first, and then address the premiums, including the HBO/Max promoise of June of 2007. Unbelievable.

Your accusing me of being selfish for wanting to wait to please the few after they please the masses is moronic.

Call it what you will. You are selfish.
Who's the moron?

Your accusing me....

"Your" in this case is "you're," not your. It is your house but you're not home.

Carry on with the premium pep rally.

Damn straight I will keep up the premium pep rally. And I will defeat you at an argument any day of the week. You're WRONG and so is DirecTV for not fulfilling their promise made in June of 2007 for a fall 2007 launch of 13 total HBO/MAX HD multichannels.

'nuff said!

 

[dslate69]

And I will defeat you at an argument any day of the week. You're WRONG
'nuff said!

Adding more HD channels to the basic packages will increase overall subs not just premium subs.

You want more HD added for a few subscribers instead of ALL subscribers. Morons don't know they are morons and also believe they win arguments just because the shout louder and longer.
I will agree on the " 'nuff said!" part, of course that is after you correct my spelling, grammar, and my exaggerating that HBO has 20 channels.

 

[Ronnie-]

Lets all hug:up

It is not worth getting worked up about

 

[dslate69]

Lets all hug:up

It is not worth getting worked up about

Ok, but only because you have a gun to my head.

 

[Ronnie-]

Ok, but only because you have a gun to my head.

Thats right! Not only am I "member of the year", I am also the enforcer with the gun

 

[Rey]

Thats right! Not only am I "member of the year", I am also the enforcer with the gun

Hey hey cool it msmith. put it away.........

 

[TomCat4680]

I think what the "premium naysayers" are really trying to say is not that they don't like movies, its that they don't like price: alot of people either can't afford premiums, or if they could they simply refuse to pay extra for them. The number who are willing to pay for the basic packages (choice or choice xtra only) far outnumber the amount who will do so for the premium movie channels, as well as premium sports packages. Some people only want the basic channels, but still want more HD content. I bet some of these naysayers WILL enjoy a movie or 2 during the HBO and Max freebie next month (May 8-12) though.

 

[JAG72]

Your all selfish and IMO there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't slam others for being just as selfish as you are.

I will say that I am also one of the selfish ones. I want the channels that I receive in HD before any of the other ones. Why shouldn't I? If I went into a store and saw this huge selection of products but they had nothing that I would ever buy would I go back? You bet I wouldn't. I see this as the same as I want my provider to carry the stations that I want and that is all I really care about.

 

[TomCat4680]

Your all selfish and IMO there is nothing wrong with that. Just don't slam others for being just as selfish as you are.

I will say that I am also one of the selfish ones. I want the channels that I receive in HD before any of the other ones. Why shouldn't I? If I went into a store and saw this huge selection of products but they had nothing that I would ever buy would I go back? You bet I wouldn't. I see this as the same as I want my provider to carry the stations that I want and that is all I really care about.

You're right, everyone is selfish. That's why capitalism works and socialism doesn't.

 

[dslate69]

I think what the "premium naysayers" are really trying to say is not that they don't like movies, its that they don't like price: alot of people either can't afford premiums, or if they could they simply refuse to pay extra for them. The number who are willing to pay for the basic packages (choice or choice xtra only) far outnumber the amount who will do so for the premium movie channels, as well as premium sports packages. Some people only want the basic channels, but still want more HD content. I bet some of these naysayers WILL enjoy a movie or 2 during the HBO and Max freebie next month (May 8-12) though.

I'll go along with that. :up