- Apr 11, 2004
WeeJavaDude said:Interesting Link on McDonalds. I was going by memory and thought about checking it. My understanding was it was eventually overturned. But maybe it was reduced. I will have to take a closer look.
GaryPen said:Jiohn - It appears that Scott Adams used to work at Dish. How 'bout that!
WeeJavaDude said:Good advice Joe. I sometimes find myself slide down that path and have to catch myself. The last time this happened was when the 6000 introduced a IR bug that caused Tivos not to work with the unit. Boy did that cause a major revolt. . It really surprised me because the 6000 was an HD box but a lot of people used it as a regular tuner also and this bug was like a life stopper and people went belistic. Even with this outrage it took dish 3 weeks to fix. Software fixes with embedded software with this type of distribution model cannot be done in days. As you said.. One person's opinion.
GaryPen said:In any case, there are mutliple manufacturers/developers for DirecTV gear, all of which are familiar with designing and manufacturing consumer electronics. Until Dish/Echostar uses this model, they will continue to offer bug infested, partially enabled equipment, some of which never reach full operability before being discontinued.
Dish needs to get out of the equipment business, and concentrate on providing service.
hancox said:Sorry to burst your anti-Dish bubble, but part of D*'s NewsCorp fun stuff is to get rid of exactly what you're talking about, and go to the E* model.
long_time_DNC said:As a software developer by profession, I find that it's easy to begin to lose my temper at what I sometimes percieve as users' unreasonable change requests. Over 20 years in this line of work, one learns that it's pointless to get bent out of shape at change requests that seem unreasonable. You just do them because that's what the users want (well, maybe 75% of the requests anyway).
I can imagine an IR bug like that getting introduced would get folks more than a little upset. . 3 weeks would seem like a long time, but sometimes, in the lifecycle of changing code and testing, it takes that long (sometimes longer) to get a problem fixed and put it into production. A problem I've been working on at the office has actually taken longer than that to fix and that's no joke. It should go into production tomorrow night, after 7 weeks of work and testing, if all goes well.
As for 266...well, I still hold out hope that it'll be released fairly soon and (hopefully) fix the dark video (and other) problems with the 811.
hancox said:oh, totally agreed with you there. 811 is buggy, no doubt. I was just pointing out that the chance of E* going to a model that D* is currently in the process of dropping, is, well, not likely
That being said - this is something that should probably be outsourced to a real CE company, not this podunk british POS company that currently does it.
hancox said:Sorry to burst your anti-Dish bubble, but part of D*'s NewsCorp fun stuff is to get rid of exactly what you're talking about, and go to the E* model. Sorry
GaryPen said:Actually, DirecTV management has talked about going to a single branding scheme. They did not say they would develop in-house. If the scheme comes to pass, they will most likely use one of the current developer/manufacturers, like LG, who already designs and manufacturers many D* boxes, including re-badged Hughes and Sony brand receivers.
GaryPen said:The closest thing currently to a DirecTV brand of HW is Hughes. LG makes the Hughes HD box. I do not know who makes the Hughes basic, SD Tivo, or HD Tivo. Whoever it is, they already do a far far far far better job than Dish. There is no denying that.
I am still trying to figure why you went with Dish when you feel DirecTV or anything other than Dish is a better option. I went with Dish for an International requirment. Why did you go with Dish in the first place with their receiver relability issues? (Not trying to start a flame, just interested on what brought you into Dishs world). If I recalll, you are going to bail as soon as your contract is up.