I was pointing out that this has often been a game of leap-frog and D* is the one that hopped most recently.
When did 80 something channels of which they proudly list 69 (they still list Golf/Versus twice) become close to 100? Has anyone figured out how they get from 69 named channels to the current count of 92? What packages (outside of a dealer package) would one have to subscribe to to get more than 60 HD "channels"?
I freely admit that everyone exaggerates their HD counts (perhaps none worse than Comcast). At some point, we should be able to figure out how they arrive at their numbers.
Sorry but that dog dont hunt no more. COX Communications has reached agreements long ago, Verizon FIOS ( a neophyte provider) carries the channels and E* has also reached agreements. D* Excuse time by blaming Lin is over. EVERY TV provider in this DMA has reached agreements EXCEPT DIRECTV.![]()
Comcast claims the "capacity for 1000 HD programs". There has to be something just a little fishy about that.BTW, you mention Comcast as the worst with HD counts, I say its DISH. They say they have 76 national channels, they in fact have only 42 I believe.
I'd like a rundown as opposed to an estimate of how many probable channels that one might get if one subscribed to every season this and gameplan that.They are probably counting all the RSN's to get to 92 I would imagine.
LIL don't count as they're not available to everyone. Sure, cable counts them, but they offer them to everybody.IF you added in the Locals in HD you would have WAY more than the 69 you mentioned.
http://jameslong.name/hdcount.htmlI'd like a rundown as opposed to an estimate of how many probable channels that one might get if one subscribed to every season this and gameplan that.LIL don't count as they're not available to everyone. Sure, cable counts them, but they offer them to everybody.
If you got all of the sports subscriptions, you would get HD on all of the part time RSNs which gives D* a count of 96 channels. Add the HD PPV and now you are over the magic 100 barrier. That's without counting LiL.http://jameslong.name/hdcount.html
This one doesnt have the "gameplans", but it is a good list of nearly everything else
Correct, it puts it at 110 (he lists 109 without the networks, but doesnt count the 101, which wasnt HD when he made the list)If you got all of the sports subscriptions, you would get HD on all of the part time RSNs which gives D* a count of 96 channels. Add the HD PPV and now you are over the magic 100 barrier. That's without counting LiL.
I'm less concerned about the differences in how they count than the fact that both are counting some channels that have little to no HD programming. I'm also more than a little tired of both claiming the rather large number of sports specialty channels that have programming only a few times a week.
Didn't EVERY provider (cablecos as well as satcos) claim ESPN-HD and ESPN2-HD as HD channels when they launched? Think back - when those launched they also had little in HD. SportsCenter was not in HD for OVER A YEAR after the channel launched. The channel launched, don't blame the providers.
DirecTV recently lit WWOR channel 9 (MNT) in NY DMA in HD. That channel shows NOTHING in HD really. But it is officially carried as WWOR-DT and is officially listed by the FCC as a HD channel. So, what makes it a HD channel or not a HD channel?
This is where you have to debate, do you want the channel up in HD and have a small amount of HD available at the time and the potential to expand to most HD,or wait till they actually have the HD programming to fill it up , then be lit up as HD.
I don't have a problem with channels that are up and listed as HD but show very little, because in the long run they just need to ADD to the programming vs the efforts to actually turn a channel on in HD.
Yes, it would be nice that the current HD channels show more, and they will ... eventually.
Jimbo
This is where you have to debate, do you want the channel up in HD and have a small amount of HD available at the time and the potential to expand to most HD,or wait till they actually have the HD programming to fill it up , then be lit up as HD.
I don't have a problem with channels that are up and listed as HD but show very little, because in the long run they just need to ADD to the programming vs the efforts to actually turn a channel on in HD.
Yes, it would be nice that the current HD channels show more, and they will ... eventually.
Jimbo
Keep this up and you'll be asked to surrender your apologist credentials.And for gosh sakes, wasn't it the other way around for the 2+ years prior to D10 lighting up?
And we ALL know how interested you are in accuracy in ALL your posts!Keep this up and you'll be asked to surrender your apologist credentials.
In the interest of accuracy, the wait was just over three years (9/4/2004 to 9/26/2007).
How about 20%?And if you think they shouldn't be put up until there is enough hd content, how much is that? 50%? 75%? 75.000000000000001%?I say put the channel up when it is available, and let the content take care of itself.
How about 20%?