XTSY is blocked in my city

[DaPope]

I called DTV to add the XTSY channel subscription and was told my city does not allow it.

How the heck can my city tell me what satellite channels I can receive in my home???

 

[uli2000]

lol, DaPope likes to watch daPorn! Some state and local governments have regulations regarding adult entertainment. Im sure that means you cant get porn at your hotels either. The only way you are going to change it is to get you city coucil to change the law.

 

[Hall]

How the heck can my city tell me what satellite channels I can receive in my home???

Because your fellow citizens (at least the majority of them) elected people to the city council who agree with their viewpoints on matters like this. Your "home" is not a law-less place that allows you to do anything you wish.

You're not allowed to view child porn in "your home".

I'll bet your town doesn't have any "adult bookstores", massage parlors, etc, etc, either.

 

[MikeD-C05]

Try "moving" to a city that does allow porn. Porn is a simple phone call away.

 

[Tyralak]

Because your fellow citizens (at least the majority of them) elected people to the city council who agree with their viewpoints on matters like this. Your "home" is not a law-less place that allows you to do anything you wish.

You're not allowed to view child porn in "your home".

I'll bet your town doesn't have any "adult bookstores", massage parlors, etc, etc, either.

Comparing child porn with adult porn is highly disingenuous. That's like comparing consentual sex with rape and claiming it's the same thing. You sound like you're just an apologist for these authoritarian whack jobs who are trying to foist their own religious views on the general public. As a mater of fact, you do have a great deal of autonomy in your own home. This is why sodomy laws and other related laws have been struck down as unconstitutional. If these laws were challenged, they would likely go the same way.

 

[Jim S.]

In addition to the problem of there being no basis other than religion for outlawing pornography, I question why local governments are allowed to interfere with interstate commerce.

 

[Tyralak]

In addition to the problem of there being no basis other than religion for outlawing pornography, I question why local governments are allowed to interfere with interstate commerce.

Which is the constitutional litmus test for any law. Does the law have a legitimate secular justification? Or is it strictly religious? For example, laws against stealing have both a religious and secular justification. However a law stating that all non-emergency businesses be shut down on the sabbath have no secular justification, thus are not constitutional.

 

[Hall]

You sound like you're just an apologist for these authoritarian whack jobs who are trying to foist their own religious views on the general public.

Sorry, I'm stating *fact*, not my opinion. They were elected by the public. If the public doesn't like this law, elect someone who will change it. I did NOT write these laws. Whether I support the idea of what his local lawmakers did is irrelevant.

 

[Tyralak]

Sorry, I'm stating *fact*, not my opinion. They were elected by the public. If the public doesn't like this law, elect someone who will change it. I did NOT write these laws. Whether I support the idea of what his local lawmakers did is irrelevant.

That may be a fact, however another fact is that given recent court rulings, such laws are unlikely to withstand legal challenge. Also, by even mentioning child porn in the same sentence as this, you seemed to be equating the two, which takes a great leap of logic, and a profound disregard for facts.

 

[jerryez]

The federal government said that Communities can set their own laws regarding porn based on local community standards. Most communities especially in the South are ruled by the church people, who their wives say are against porn. No man is going to stand in front of the city council and defend porn pubicily. In my case it is the local district attorney who arrests everyone who attempts to sell porn. He is the local God and has set our community standards. Would your wife or your boss like you to publicily defend porn. Enough said!

 

[Tyralak]

The federal government said that Communities can set their own laws regarding porn based on local community standards. Most communities especially in the South are ruled by the church people, who their wives say are against porn. No man is going to stand in front of the city council and defend porn pubicily. In my case it is the local district attorney who arrests everyone who attempts to sell porn. He is the local God and has set our community standards. Would your wife or your boss like you to publicily defend porn. Enough said!

That shiester DA ought to be careful and tread lightly. He could find himself on the receiving end of a civil rights lawsuit or a malicious prosecution charge. The federal government has let communities set laws like this in years past, but more and more the law is being understood in a way that protects the rights of the individuals and their privacy than the whims of religious nutjobs who want to control people's private lives. Lawrence V. Texas is going to be the central point as to these laws being overturned, as it set a precident for individual rights to privacy rather than standards imposed by collectivists. This by someone who doesn't particularly like porn. I'm far more offended by people trying to impose their own morals on others than by someone's choice of entertainment.

 

[Van]

The federal government said that Communities can set their own laws regarding porn based on local community standards. Most communities especially in the South are ruled by the church people, who their wives say are against porn. No man is going to stand in front of the city council and defend porn pubicily. In my case it is the local district attorney who arrests everyone who attempts to sell porn. He is the local God and has set our community standards. Would your wife or your boss like you to publicily defend porn. Enough said!

My state is a bible belt state with some old southern baptist controls in place, there are still dry counties here but not more than a mile down the road theres an adult book store and another a few miles in town as well as several strip clubs and a one on one modeling biz. That being said I was surprised to find out that Adam & Eve will not ship their catalog based on this states religious views ( their words ) but hey I can go to the gas station and buy a Hustler magazine wich shows XXX action pics so go figure.

The DA in your town is successful only because none of the locals are willing to take him to task on his heavy handed tactics. While Im not one that actively frequents adult establishments I do support having them in what ever location I live because its not just that sex is fun:up but we are a free society ( or atleast supposed to be ) and if my neighbor wants to oggle some early 30 something brunnette shaking her personalities at him then so be it. On occasion I've purchased an adult dvd, do I want someone telling me that I cant do such a thing because "they think" I'm not capable of handling seeing one or more consenting adults having hot steamy sessions of patty cake and will go out and try to force a strange woman to play patty cake with me? Not on your life and if some knuckle dragging bible thumper tried that I would be standing out infront of their church or the city hall holding a picket sign and my wife would not be ashamed in the least bit.

Your wrong though, there have been a few rallies this year in several locations where the town or a person has tried to stop an adult establishment from opening or said establishments are fighting to stay open. One such location was in Cincinati around the summer time in July, another was in an Atlanta suburb and a business man was fighting to finish his adult novelty store that he had gotten permits to open when someone decided they didnt like what he was doing. It may be porn and this country may still fear nudity and sexuality like its something dirty but it is one of our rights and people will fight for it.

As my wife puts it " people that have hang ups about sex would be embarrased to picket, not those who enjoy it"

 

[Hall]

You're rather hung up on that, now aren't you ?? The point is, laws still apply inside your home. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the law or if I think it's "right". It is what it is and until someone fights it in court, it stands.

 

[NpaulTodd]

how does that local law work with internet porn ( whether a site or renting or purchasing a DVD) If they can control your tv content , I would think the internet is next .

 

[Tyralak]

You're rather hung up on that, now aren't you ?? The point is, laws still apply inside your home. I'm not saying I agree or disagree with the law or if I think it's "right". It is what it is and until someone fights it in court, it stands.

I realize that, and my point was that such laws will be unlikely to stand up against legal challenges BECAUSE of it being in the home.

 

[rcdallas]

Porn is healthy, period.

Now when you goto a house to install a dish 300 feet from the Ohio state line and go into a bedroom of the 38 year old son living with his mother in a should be condemed house with floors caving in broken out windows that smells like urine with a wall of porn on each wall consisting of well over 2000 porn/horsey videos and every Star Trek episode with the vcr conveintly located on a night stand so that all you have to do is roll over and change tapes without getting out of bed with a bottle of opened vaseline on it.... you might have a problem.

Boy the other two techs and I were laughing our butts off on that one.

 

[MikeD-C05]

WHOOOOAAA NEEELLLYYYY!!!


Instead of horsing around and trying to do an install in that house I think I would of run the other direction. Wild horses wouldn't of kept me there.

 

[turbosat]

Wasn't aware of satellite-delivered porn being regulated city-by-city now, but hey its direct's prerogative to avoid lawsuits. This came up in AL back in the late 80s because of some high-school boys swapping XXX tapes at school, tapes they had recorded off the American Triple-Xtasy channel. We had a crusading Attorney General who filed all kinds of lawsuits and injunctions against the sat channel , which was c-band, and scrambled at the time, including the programmer, the satellite-uplink company & the satellite owner too. The end result was about 8 states blocking the sale of the satellite channel in those states. I thought it was funny later on when dishnetwork had xxx available, but never followed up on whether they were actually selling it here. And I never even asked if I could've subscribed to it, when I had DN, it was hard enough just getting a receiver activated for ordinary programming!

 

[KE4EST]

I live in the bible belt here also I can't get xtasy on Dish, but I can via the inet if I so choose and what I think is werid is in the same town there is a prono shop I can buy all the adult toys and vids with the money shots anal and all.... so go figure.

 

[Skyhi]

That shiester DA ought to be careful and tread lightly. He could find himself on the receiving end of a civil rights lawsuit or a malicious prosecution charge. The federal government has let communities set laws like this in years past, but more and more the law is being understood in a way that protects the rights of the individuals and their privacy than the whims of religious nutjobs who want to control people's private lives. Lawrence V. Texas is going to be the central point as to these laws being overturned, as it set a precident for individual rights to privacy rather than standards imposed by collectivists. This by someone who doesn't particularly like porn. I'm far more offended by people trying to impose their own morals on others than by someone's choice of entertainment.

.....spoken like a law student...are you taking Con LAw right now? (btw, I agree with you)