Yet another setup question

[Delirium]

My equipment will be arriving in the next week or two and I wanted to make sure I have all the right info to set it up correctly. I am getting the Satwork ST3688 receiver, Winegard 1 meter dish, DMSI Universal LNBF, and the SG2100 motor. I am completely new to all of this so please forgive my ignorance.

My zip code is 83201 and my longitude is 112.43. I assume I will use Anik F2 at 111.1 degrees as my "true south" satellite since the satellite at 113 degrees is c-band only. I would like some help in figuring out the angle my dish should be set at. As far as skew, I believe I have read in this forum to use 0 since my dish will be motorized (correct me if I'm wrong). I am already aware of taking into account my magnetic deviation.

If there is anything else I should know, please inform me. Thanks, in advance, for your help.

 

[PSB]

Pocatello, ID 83201
Latitude 42° 53.256'N Longitude 112° 26.286'W

Sat Name Sat Lng Az(t) Az(m) El Skew
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*** All Satellites 61W - 160W ***

EchoStar 3 61.5W 118.9 104.3 19.3 -39.9
Rainbow 1 61.5W 118.9 104.3 19.3 -39.9
Brasilsat A2 (incl. 5.8 deg) 63.0W 120.2 105.6 20.3 -39.3
Brasilsat B2 65.0W 122.0 107.3 21.6 -38.4
Brasilsat B1 70.0W 126.7 112.0 24.8 -36.0
Nahuel 1 71.8W 128.4 113.8 26.0 -35.0
AMC 6 72.0W 128.6 114.0 26.1 -34.9
Galaxy 12 74.0W 130.6 116.0 27.3 -33.8
SBS 6 74.0W 130.6 116.0 27.3 -33.8
GOES 12 75.0W 131.6 117.0 27.9 -33.2
AMC 5 79.0W 135.9 121.2 30.2 -30.7
DirecTV 3 81.8W 139.0 124.3 31.7 -28.8
Nimiq 2 82.0W 139.2 124.5 31.8 -28.6
Brasilsat B3 84.0W 141.5 126.8 32.8 -27.1
XM Roll 85.0W 142.7 128.0 33.3 -26.4
AMC 9 85.0W 142.7 128.0 33.3 -26.4
AMC 3 87.0W 145.1 130.4 34.2 -24.8
Galaxy 9 91.0W 150.0 135.4 36.0 -21.5
Galaxy 11 91.0W 150.0 135.4 36.0 -21.5
Nimiq 1 91.0W 150.0 135.4 36.0 -21.5
Brasilsat B4 92.0W 151.3 136.6 36.4 -20.6
Telstar 6 93.0W 152.6 137.9 36.7 -19.7
Galaxy 8I (incl. 1.0 deg) 95.0W 155.2 140.6 37.5 -17.9
Galaxy 3C 95.0W 155.2 140.6 37.5 -17.9
Telstar 5 97.0W 157.9 143.3 38.1 -16.0
Inmarsat 2 f2 (incl. 1.7 deg) 98.0W 159.3 144.6 38.4 -15.0
Galaxy 4R 99.0W 160.7 146.0 38.7 -14.0
DirecTV 2 100.8W 163.2 148.5 39.1 -12.3
DirecTV 1R 100.8W 163.2 148.5 39.1 -12.3
AMC 4 101.0W 163.4 148.8 39.2 -12.1
DirecTV 1 101.0W 163.4 148.8 39.2 -12.1
AMSC 1 101.1W 163.6 148.9 39.2 -12.0
DirecTV 4S 101.2W 163.7 149.1 39.2 -11.8
AMC 1 103.0W 166.3 151.6 39.6 -10.0
Solidaridad 1 (incl. 2.8 deg) 103.5W 167.0 152.3 39.7 -9.5
AMC 2 105.0W 169.1 154.5 39.9 -7.9
G-Star 3 (incl. 11.5 deg) 105.0W 169.1 154.5 39.9 -7.9
G-Star 1 (incl. 6.0 deg) 105.0W 169.1 154.5 39.9 -7.9
MSAT 1 106.5W 171.3 156.7 40.1 -6.4
Anik F1 107.3W 172.5 157.8 40.2 -5.5
Anik E1 109.2W 175.2 160.6 40.4 -3.5
DirecTV 6 109.8W 176.1 161.5 40.4 -2.8
EchoStar 6 110.0W 176.4 161.8 40.4 -2.6
EchoStar 8 110.0W 176.4 161.8 40.4 -2.6
Anik E2R 111.1W 178.0 163.4 40.5 -1.4
Solidaridad 2 113.0W 180.8 166.2 40.5 0.6
Morelos 2 (incl. 4.4 deg) 114.9W 183.6 169.0 40.4 2.6
XM Rock 115.0W 183.8 169.1 40.4 2.8
SatMex 5 116.8W 186.4 171.7 40.3 4.7
Anik E2 118.7W 189.2 174.5 40.1 6.7
DirecTV 5 119.0W 189.6 174.9 40.1 7.0
EchoStar 7 119.0W 189.6 174.9 40.1 7.0
EchoStar 5 119.0W 189.6 174.9 40.1 7.0
EchoStar 9/Telstar 13 121.0W 192.5 177.8 39.8 9.1
Galaxy 10R 123.0W 195.3 180.7 39.4 11.2
Galaxy 5 125.0W 198.1 183.5 38.9 13.2
Galaxy 12 125.0W 198.1 183.5 38.9 13.2
Galaxy 13 127.0W 200.9 186.2 38.4 15.1
Telstar 7 129.0W 203.6 188.9 37.7 17.1
Satcom C3 131.0W 206.3 191.6 37.1 18.9
Galaxy 1R 133.0W 208.9 194.2 36.3 20.7
Satcom C4 135.0W 211.4 196.7 35.5 22.4
GOES 10 135.5W 212.0 197.4 35.3 22.9
AMC 7 137.0W 213.9 199.2 34.6 24.1
AMC 8 139.0W 216.3 201.6 33.7 25.7
Inmarsat 2 f3 (incl. 1.9 deg) 142.0W 219.8 205.2 32.2 28.0
EchoStar 1 148.0W 226.4 211.8 29.0 32.1
EchoStar 2 148.0W 226.4 211.8 29.0 32.1
TDRS 9 (incl. 7.4 deg) 151.0W 229.5 214.9 27.2 33.9
TDRS 10 (incl. 6.2 deg) 151.0W 229.5 214.9 27.2 33.9
EchoStar 4 157.0W 235.4 220.7 23.5 37.1

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SG2100 motor elevation angle = 47 deg.
Dish Elevation= 23.5 deg.

http://www.lyngsat.com/anikf2.html

AnikF2 will be hard to use as a true south satellite, I would use a DBS LNB if you have one to get started, peak your signal to 110w and you will not be far away. Swap back to your Universal (change back L.O.) and you should be set to start searching for satellites!

" Its always a good idea to find a few satellites (mainly your true south) without a motor first then add it later"

 

[Delirium]

Thanks again PSB for the quick reply.

I do have an old Directv dish setup and could probably just use one of the lnbs from it. I was curious why you said that AnikF2 will be hard to use as a true south satellite. What would you recommend using as my true south?

 

[PSB]

All the channels are encrypted there, so it would be hard to confirm what satellite you are on. I would use 110w to get started. And I would bag a few satellites before adding the motor.

 

[Delirium]

That makes sense. I'll use 110 as my true south and will let you know when I get everything all set up.

Thanks for all the help

 

[air88]

Sorry, wrong post

 

[ken2400]

I would try 119W or 91W. There is some intesting stuff on 91W from time to time.

That makes sense. I'll use 110 as my true south and will let you know when I get everything all set up.

Thanks for all the help

 

[Delirium]

Well, after weeks of waiting, I finally got my dish. Unfortunately, the weather is rainy/snowy so I have to wait a few days for the sky to clear up.

I was searching through old posts to make sure I have all my info right so I can set everything up properly, and had a question for PSB (or anyone else who might know). Previously you stated my dish elevation should be set to 23.5 degrees and my motor elevation should be 47 deg. I understand how you got the 23.5 but would like to know how you got the 47 deg for the motor. The instructions for the SG2100 say to use your locations latitude (mine being 42.8). Is there something I missed?

Also, as PSB recommended, I plan on setting the dish up without a motor to begin with. What should the dish elevation be set at without the motor?

Thanks.

 

[PSB]

I used the SG2100 manual, I don't have one in front of me right now. All the angles are in there, trust that. If you are setting up without a motor (good idea) the above "Satfinder" list will work, just pick the satellite and go along to the ELEVATION.

Have Fun!

 

[Delirium]

Thanks PSB,

I took a closer look at the manual and, sure enough, you're numbers were all correct. I can't wait to have some nice weather so I can set everything up and let you know how it all turned out.

 

[Delirium]

Okay, I've started to install my dish but had a stupid question. How do you read the elevation on a Winegard dish?

Thanks

 

[PSB]

Use the red line!

 

[Delirium]

Thanks PSB,

That's where I thought I was supposed to set the elevation. For some reason, my dish doesn't have a red line.

 

[PilotS77]

It does but it can be tricky to see - look staight at the bracket and it will be at the right of the bolt inside the track that the bolt uses to travel...

 

[PilotS77]

Maybe the picture will help you - if you enlarge it you can easily see that I have placed an arrow on the red line.

 

[Delirium]

Thanks for the picture, Pilot.

I went out to look at the dish in the spot you have indicated in the picture and there is not any red mark. I wonder if the 1 meter dish just doesn't have it. Oh well, I think I have set the elevation properly anyway.

 

[Delirium]

I just found out why my dish is pointed incorrectly. I finally called Winegard and talked to a tech who said that the red line is only on their 30" dish. For the 1 meter, he said to read the elevation at the center of the bolt. Just thought you might want to know. It's time for Round 4 with my setup. Hopefully I'll win this one.