Carrier IQ Android OEM tracking software... logs your every move... and not happy about XDA

[Scott Greczkowski]

I don't care if your an Apple Fan Boy or an Android Fan Boy, you should be concerned about your civil liberties which were violated with this program.

Some companies think the constitution was printed so they could wipe their asses with it.

When does it end?

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I don't care if your an Apple Fan Boy or an Android Fan Boy, you should be concerned about your civil liberties which were violated with this program.

Some companies think the constitution was printed so they could wipe their asses with it.

When does it end?

Well said. SO well said, I stole it and used it on twitter.


As a friend of mine posted this morning. Yeah, we all like Julian Assange now, don't we? #carrieriq #wikileaks

 

[mogera]

Well here are removal instructions. I used them this morning on my rooted Galaxy S2 and it says it's been removed. Carrier IQ: How the Widespread Rootkit Can Track Everything on Your Phone, and How to Remove It

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Well here are removal instructions. I used them this morning on my rooted Galaxy S2 and it says it's been removed. Carrier IQ: How the Widespread Rootkit Can Track Everything on Your Phone, and How to Remove It

Alas, this ONLY helps those who are rooted. And the 99% of users who are running stock, remain screwed. But thanks for posting.

 

[diogen]

This has a chance to answer the question whether it is country-specific...

Diogen.

 

[diogen]

Just to spread the misery feeling..
Assange: 'iPhone, BlackBerry, Gmail users - you're all screwed' ? The Register

"We're seeing increasingly wholesale monitoring of entire populations with no suspicion of
wrongdoing – the data is being monitored and stored in the hope that it might one day be useful."

And here.
Please note, governments are the biggest customers...

Interesting note

Nokia's Mark Durrant tweeted, "Carrier IQ does not produce products for Nokia devices, so neither we nor anyone else could have installed them."

Could this be the reason Nokia is so unpopular in the US?


Diogen.

 

[StevenD]

Be careful! I used https://market.android.com/details?id=com.treve.loggingkey and it put my Skyrocket into an infinite crash loop. I had to use ODIN to recover to Stock and then restore my apps.

 

[Neutron]

Reading the article LER posted it seems to me the carriers and manufacturers are all confused. HTC says it's required by carriers in the US yet Verizon claims it's not on their network. With the iPhone being so popular how can the statement by HTC be true?

I have the diagostic think opted out on my iPhone. Same as with my wife's iPhone.

 

[diogen]

Reading the article LER posted it seems to me the carriers and manufacturers are all confused.

Confused?

Well, at least you won't be accused by rocky of being a conspiracy theorist...

Diogen.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Confused?

Well, at least you won't be accused by rocky of being a conspiracy theorist...

Diogen.

I didn't accuse, I commented that you were talking conspiracy theory (And you might very well be correct!)

 

[Anole]

Interesting twist
Carrier IQ, Samsung, And HTC All Facing Class Action Lawsuits | TechCrunch

 

[HIFI]

Easy to Use and Install App from Supercurio to Detect CarrierIQ on Your Device

 

[Frank Jr.]

NBC News reports on this again tonight

Three class action lawsuits have now been filed on behalf of cellphone users in California, Illinois and Delaware.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

I love the last comment - this is so fundamentally wrong, it is only going to get bigger.

 

[Hall]

This story suggests that TrevE's analysis might be flawed (and exaggerating):

Skeptics find flaws in Carrier IQ application analysis

Don't worry, the skeptic in me says "who says the carriers and phone mfgrs didn't pay for this ?"

 

[Frank Jr.]

"It is an utterly appalling invasion of privacy with immense potential for manipulation and privacy theft that requires immediate federal intervention."

Cornell Prof: Carrier IQ affair 'my worst nightmare'

 

[John Kotches]

Mike:

You and I are not in disagreement about this. However, it's the issue of proof that we are not seeing eye to eye on.

My point is that being delivered to someone's server via ping is not proof. You have to show delivery of actual private data (not an ICMP packet that basically says "I'm alive!" to anyone that asks). This type of data is capturable (as demonstrated).


The ping is analogous to convicting someone of a crime on the basis of the defendant being able to drive to the victim's house.

 

[John Kotches]

This is getting difficult to spin, and I think the cease and desist was the worst possible move on CIQs part.

 

[rockymtnhigh]

Mike:

You and I are not in disagreement about this. However, it's the issue of proof that we are not seeing eye to eye on.

My point is that being delivered to someone's server via ping is not proof. You have to show delivery of actual private data (not an ICMP packet that basically says "I'm alive!" to anyone that asks). This type of data is capturable (as demonstrated).


The ping is analogous to convicting someone of a crime on the basis of the defendant being able to drive to the victim's house.

You must not have read my reply - I did not say it was proof. I said the fact that the subdomain existed was evidence that suggested there was some relationship.

it does not matter. Carrier IQ has done us all a favor in bringing this issue to the public's view.

 

[John Kotches]

You must not have read my reply - I did not say it was proof. I said the fact that the subdomain existed was evidence that suggested there was some relationship.

again, suggestion of a relationship is not evidence of a relationship. there are no restrictions on naming subdomains within a domain.

i like actual proof rather than supposition.



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