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mwdxer1

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OTA TV may disappear in time, but it will be longer than 10-15 years. By then, hopefully there will be other avenues, like more spectrum for streaming.
 

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Well my in put of this auction is a big snowball the company called American tower has like 1400 tower's for the broadcasting companys of to day since this hole auction mess started the towers of to day and back then have the newest and up to date equipment for the repack of the channels and the FCC all ready no hoo is out of the broadcasting biasness so now low vhf they say start at 50:MHZ hi vhf 174:MHz ,and then UHF at 800:MHz???? So with that being said I think everyone will see low vhf 2to6 hi vhf 7to13 and UHF 14to49 ???just look at the MHZ that was sold ?

And they say you will not need an outside TV antenna to receive the broadcasting companys ?? Because the broadcasting tower's are lower then the older tower's for mobile TV by lowing the towers the better u can receive broadcasting of TV &mobile TV ? What do you think
 

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OTA TV may disappear in time, but it will be longer than 10-15 years. By then, hopefully there will be other avenues, like more spectrum for streaming.
I'm hopeful that they can find a better medium than an personal wireless broadband connection to serve up broadcasts.
 

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So with that being said I think everyone will see low vhf 2to6 hi vhf 7to13 and UHF 14to49 ???
The reverse auction vacated all TV channels above RF36 (608MHz).
And they say you will not need an outside TV antenna to receive the broadcasting companys ??
"They" didn't say that. It seems likely that with the density of the TV band, signals are likely to get weaker and the need for a high gain antenna will be greater.

I suppose that the use of directional antennas may address some of the interference problems but there are limitations (cost being a big one) there too.
 

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What I foresee is a greatly reduced digital footprint for those stations relocated to the VHF-Lo band. People that live 40 - 50 miles from the towers will have greatly reduced availability of stations.
 
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Proof positive that stations under 37 that sold their frequency may be moved.

I wonder if they're moving in with WFND or replacing them and whether they will continue to be full power or cut their power by a factor of >10. WFND currently shows a co-channel warning on tvfool.

WFND-LD is a low-power station and will be displaced. It will have to find a new channel.

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What I foresee is a greatly reduced digital footprint for those stations relocated to the VHF-Lo band. People that live 40 - 50 miles from the towers will have greatly reduced availability of stations.

Low VHF has better range than UHF. The above would only be true, IF the people are using a UHF only antenna.

The biggest issue with Low VHF, is that it's extremely susceptible to electrical interference. We are absolutely surrounded by electrical interference! I had to replace a Dell laptop power brick, and a Harbor Freight car battery charger to eliminate that interference on my property.

The Harbor Freight maintenance charger interference could be picked up on my FM tuned car radio, more than 300 feet away from the garage it was used in.
 

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You've got much bigger problems if your FM radio is picking up 60Hz.

Nope, it's picking up the switching frequency, as it's a switching type battery charger. Which interference stopped immediately after unplugging the charger.

The whole point, is that VHF TV is very susceptible to electrical interference, whether it's broadcast analog or digital.
 
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Yes of cors i have been Reading this tvnewscheck they say the highest channel will be 38 and that stashion that has to move will go to low vhf so they all so say you will not need on outside TV antennas no more I asked why the plans are to use a becun that feed's off of it's main tower to service everyone so if you have a good indoor TV antenna !!! Red flag's to me when the becun stops working no more TV ? But he did say if I still have an outdoor TV antenna that I can still receive the main towers with it so don't giv up on the old school tv antenna and don't let theme out of your site lol good day!!
 
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The whole point, is that VHF TV is very susceptible to electrical interference, whether it's broadcast analog or digital.
I'm not convinced that your example proves your claim. The problem is perhaps more likely related to interference at the radio's intermediate frequency rather than a switching frequency at or near the FM broadcast or TV channel frequency.
 
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A and know I have a question on Mobile TV will my outside TV antenna receive it and if so antilog TV box hooked up to it will it un Decode it cent's the new TV don't have real tuner's in them ? know is that because of mobile TV but can you with old TV Set's will receive it 600:MHZ will tune it in what do you think it will receive and don't for get 3.0 TV and what is it ?
 
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Yes of cors i have been Reading this tvnewscheck they say the highest channel will be 38 and that stashion that has to move will go to low vhf so they all so say you will not need on outside TV antennas no more I asked why the plans are to use a becun that feed's off of it's main tower to service everyone so if you have a good indoor TV antenna !!! Red flag's to me when the becun stops working no more TV ? But he did say if I still have an outdoor TV antenna that I can still receive the main towers with it so don't giv up on the old school tv antenna and don't let theme out of your site lol good day!!

Well, the highest RF TV channel is to be ch. 36 not 38. And 37 has been set aside for radio astronomy and off-limits to TV since '63.

Also not all stations which have to move are necessarily going to the VHF-lo band ch. 2-6.

And what exactly is a "becun?"

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Well, the highest RF TV channel is to be ch. 36 not 38. And 37 has been set aside for radio astronomy and off-limits to TV since '63.

Also not all stations which have to move are necessarily going to the VHF-lo band ch. 2-6.

And what exactly is a "becun?"

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Taking a guess that in English it means Beacon, as in current ATSC 1.0 stations will be combined and shared from 1 or more lighthouse transmitters when the move to ATSC 3.0 begins.
 
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