Who Else is Holding Off on Purchasing a 4K UHD Set...

TheForce

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it would need to be ripped out and the disc player, receiver and projector replaced. I am not willing to spend $15k for the upgrade and will wait until the products stabilize and prices drop.

Personally, I had not planned on making the upgrade until later this year, but a couple events fell into place-
1. the Projector and a 4K UHD program source became available as of March.
2. 4K BluRay movies began selling at a reasonable price
3. I found an ebay auction to get the new Sony 665ES projector for $8600. Hard to pass that up.

If you buy the Samsung K8500 BluRay Player, you will also get a player source that plays the 4K UHD disks, and has all the apps for internet streaming sources and will play files from USB too.
The Samsung has a dual HDMI output to feed 4K UHD and lessor to the projector direct and display HDR content through hdmi input1, while also sending audio vis the second hdmi to your traditional AVR, eliominating the need to upgrade the AVR receiver. This can receive priority once you add a second 4K HDR program source to your equipment compliment. Other sources such as a 4K UHD server, or a 4K UHD satellite receiver when these come out.

The main problem today is the HDR color gamut handling by these new devices. Basically there are problems and the companies are scrambling to fix it through firmware updates. Until these issues get fixed, you either wait or operate with a crippled version of HDR so the picture looks natural. The good news is that even with the crippled version, these latest UHD TV's produce an amazing picture far superior in image brightness and detail than the best 1080p. What I found is the 2D and especially the 3D is jaw dropping better on the bigger screens than what I had before.

For those who are considering an OLED panel vs a DILA or SXRD projector-
My personal opinion on OLED is that I don't like the blacks on OLED. While they are very deep and really black, when I sit in front of an OLED TV I see a mirror image of me and my room reflection. I become part of the TV image. I don't like that! The projector has the same level of black depth but lacks the glossy, mirror reflection. But as a practical issue, a projector really needs a dedicated Home theater room for it to work. The OLED can be used anywhere. As for the other colors besides blacks, the newest projectors with UHD can look as saturated and bright even in full room light as the OLED. The older projectors with just HD limitation could never do as well.
 

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Well I'm certainly not running out to buy a 4K TV because it's 4K.
When my tvs need to be replaced I will have no choice by then to replace it with a 4K tv.

But no , I'm not going to buy a TV just because it's 4K.

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I love mine and I can't wait to watch Daredevil Season 2 this weekend in 4K.

Also, for those who says there is not enough 4K material to justify purchasing a TV, Netflix will have roughly 400-500 hours ( 30-40 new and returning TV shows in 2016, movies new and old and other things), Amazon Prime Stuff ( just subscribe to Prime so I don't know how much is on it ), PPV Movies on Vudu ( also can buy them ), Ultraflix and a UHD Player now for Physical Media.

There is a lot more content in the first few years of 4K then their was in the first few years of HDTV ( who remembers the TV manufacturers sponsoring HDTV channels on DirecTV, I do).

Also, when will providers (cable, Sat.) and channels start getting serious about 4K, they are getting serious outpaced by the Internet , they could not even get 1080P going and will have to start playing catch up for 4K,but based on what I have read they do not seem to care.
 

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Also, I already know that I properly will be buying another 4K set in about 2 years since all the stuff with HDR is not set in stone, will we have HDR like we have now, will the specs change again or will it become HDR 10 which I believe is Dolby's version of HDR ( Dolby Vision).

But that is why we have kids, they get the old stuff, we have the excuse to get the new.
 

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HDR10 and Dolby Vision are different. Movies using Dolby Vision are required to have HDR10.UHD currently utilizes HDR10.

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My tv is a 2008 67 inch Samsung dlp with the led projection bulbs that last the life of the tv. About 3 years ago I thought I was going to have to buy a new tv as the screen got populated with white dots. What causes that is a chip goes bad. Got a new chip for about $280.00 and changed that. I think the picture is about as good as new. I don,t feel I need 4 k and all that. My vision is poor enough that all that isn,t needed by me. I have some eguipment that I couldn,t use on a new tv. This tv has composit, component, computer imput, and hdmi imputs. Heck some of those visio tv,s do not even have an off air antenna tuner.
 
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I wonder if the OP from 3.5 years ago will see this.
I think it is instructional to see where we thought we were then versus where we are now. Someone had suggested that the HDR/WCG standards had settled out.

I still don't buy goaliebob99's insistence that 4K content is plentiful. Sure you can stream newer movies and streaming TV series but where's the broader coverage of live content and the older titles?
 

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I needed a new tv. Got a Sony 55". The few C-Band channels such as NASA in 4K are awesome. I'm happy with it after a few firmware updates.
But I discovered fast that streaming 4K content ate my data up fast. And I got capped. And the ISP said 15 bucks extra a month for unlimited. Nah.
But the picture is real nice.
 

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I needed a new tv. Got a Sony 55". The few C-Band channels such as NASA in 4K are awesome. I'm happy with it after a few firmware updates.
But I discovered fast that streaming 4K content ate my data up fast. And I got capped. And the ISP said 15 bucks extra a month for unlimited. Nah.
But the picture is real nice.
Which model did you end up getting? I'm looking at the XBR-55X850G/C, which goes on sale at Costco next week.....
 

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You don't have a 4K? Then that is fine. If you have a 4K I don't recommend upgrading to 8K. Your eye will not be able to tell the difference.

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Look at the TCL models at Costco.
I agree! If price holds a higher priority than performance, the TCL TVs are very hard to beat. There are also some nice Hisense TVs that offer good (but noticeably not perfect) performance for 1/3rd the price of the bigs. Some of these models tout some level of quantum dot extended brightness/color and/or FALD features that the other brands offer on their highest-end models (just don't expect OLED).
 

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I’m glad I bought a good Sony. Might outlive me.
The way they are building TVs these days, I wouldn't be surprised if they all died on the same day. TV repair is very close to a lost art because you often can't get the components as so many functions have moved to VLSI.

It is one thing replacing a projector lamp but it is an entirely different endeavor to replace a FALD unit. LEDs may never wear out but they have been known to fail.
 

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My MiL was given a 55” TV with a small vertical stripe in it. 5-6 years old? Not worth paying to repair, even if possible


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