Thank You All for the help it is much appreciated , think i will try Rat Shack (as you all seem to call it LOL) for Uhf Ant http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog%5Fname=CTLG&category%5Fname=CTLG%5F003%5F001%5F002%5F000&product%5Fid=15%2D2160 ....at least I can get there quickly see if it...