I am a Direct sub with the HD pack as an add on. I'm really growing tired of paying for the HD pack. I never watch the HD ch's. I mean never. I want to know if I cancel the HD pack....I still will be getting ABC, NBC, Fox and CBS in HD. Plus I'll still be receiving HBOHD and ShoHD. It just irks the hell out of me that Im paying 12.99 for HDNET, HDNET Movies, DiscHD , ESPNHD and UPNHD. Discovery I like but I never really sit down and watch. UPNHD has been a big disappointment to me. My question is if I cancel the HD pack, what happens when my area (NY) goes MPEG 4? I lose the locals and HBO and Sho in HD? Or is the conversion just for locals in HD? All the HD ch's are going to Mpeg 4? Does the fact that Im not a HDpack subscriber mean that I wont get upgraded?