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Unislick,

you mentioned this:

"I do need to give Directv more time to work out kinks with the C31s (although I shouldn't be beta testing their stuff especially when kid content is involved)."

The 3's and the h25's ARE the newest devices D* has, so of course theres gonna be issues, they've been out about a month or two.

You possibly could have gotten recvres that have been tried and tested already, the HR24's are very good and reliable and the newest prior to the release of the 25 and 31's
 
Could have...but didn't really want to pay an extra $200 bucks a piece for something I don't own.
 
Speaking of your reliabe HR-24. I had one scheduled recording for tonight...my wife's Hawaii Five-0 and it didn't record. In history, it states "this episode was canceled because of a programming update"

Anyone know what that means?
 
Speaking of your reliabe HR-24. I had one scheduled recording for tonight...my wife's Hawaii Five-0 and it didn't record. In history, it states "this episode was canceled because of a programming update"

Anyone know what that means?

Programming update ?

What time is Hawaii Five - 0 on ?

I am recording Revolution tonight just fine, from 10-11.
 
I posted exactly what it said on the history screen for that recording.

It was on 9-10 central. It is now over...saw another post maybe refer to this as a "tuner hang issue"?

My wife is not very happy right now.
 
Could have...but didn't really want to pay an extra $200 bucks a piece for something I don't own.

You don't OWN any of the recvrs, regardless of what you may have paid up front.

The upfront cost, I find much better than the alternative that Cable and DISH does, give you the recvrs, but charge you monthly for the duration of your time with them .... $ 200 is a lot cheaper than $20 p/m for the next 5-10 years.
 
You are missing the point...having to pay up front for something that isn't yours is like making a down payment on a house and making a monthly payment for the mortgage and after 30 years you don't get to keep the house.

Please tell me how you don't pay monthly receiver fees for Directv? I pay $6 per receiver outside of the primary tv $18 total...Dish - I paid $21 ($7 per VIP722) but I had 6 tvs.going. I needed to downgrade with Directv (now only 4 tvs vs. 6) to control my monthly expenses and upfront equip costs.
 
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I posted exactly what it said on the history screen for that recording.

It was on 9-10 central. It is now over...saw another post maybe refer to this as a "tuner hang issue"?

My wife is not very happy right now.

I don't, I have never had that issue with any of my hr24s
 
You are missing the point...having to pay up front for something that isn't yours is like making a down payment on a house and making a monthly payment for the mortgage and after 30 years you don't get to keep the house.

Please tell me how you don't pay monthly receiver fees for Directv? I pay $6 per receiver outside of the primary tv $18 total...Dish - I paid $21 ($7 per VIP722) but I had 6 tvs.going. I needed to downgrade with Directv (now only 4 tvs vs. 6) to control my monthly expenses and upfront equip costs.

Neve said I didnt pay recvr fees, the recvr fees with D are much cheaper than other companies, what is it, 6 dollars per recvr, the local cable company is 20+ for each recvr.
 
Then the op should definitely check that out. Very easy to watch from a pc using that. Perhaps even easier than the way he was watching dish.


Of course a sling or Vulkano are also an option (for his uses though I don't think he would need one ).
 
Sorry but as an installer Dish can't hunt.

As many have said, the watching on the internet should not be a problem. Maybe you have to do it a bit different, but thats just a learning curve. Guide options, menu options learn the system. IF they do it exactly the same then you don't have different options. You may find something you really like that the other provider does not do.

722 the 2nd tv output is SD can't belive no one brought that up. When you record a program tv2 is tied up. I can record 5 programs on my HMC, plus watch live tv on 3 other tv's. I could add C-31's and have even more flexibility within the system. Your hands are tied with the 722.

SWM kicks Dishes butt from an install stand point. Directv's equipment although it has it's problems is far more reliable.

Price - Dish used to win this battle. Not any longer, I am saving so much compared to Dish and I have HD on all Tv's.

And my last point I know has no bearing to you. But Dish treats it's installation people like dirt, actually worse than dirt. The company actually acts like it would be better if it did not have installers. Dish was just rated the worst company in the USA to work for, it's not a joke it's that bad.
 
directvtopc is, I believe, the only way you can watch on your pc, so that is how I have been using it. It does NOT stream live tv and it is a stutter machine.

Another thing I do not like at all.
The dvr - with the dish 722, I could create folders and put the shows in the folders so I did not have a huge long list of shows to scroll thru, mostly children's shows.
I have a bunch for my grandkids. With dish, I just created folders - kids, mine, wife.....shows were put in the appropriate folder -
as far as I can tell, you can not do that on direct, best you can do is sort them by categories, so I have a list of dozens of shows......again - 1990's technology vs 21st century technology.

and I have yet to get slow motion to work.....
 
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directvtopc is, I believe, the only way you can watch on your pc, so that is how I have been using it. It does NOT stream live tv and it is a stutter machine.

Another thing I do not like at all.
The dvr - with the dish 722, I could create folders and put the shows in the folders so I did not have a huge long list of shows to scroll thru, mostly children's shows.
I have a bunch for my grandkids. With dish, I just created folders - kids, mine, wife.....shows were put in the appropriate folder -
as far as I can tell, you can not do that on direct, best you can do is sort them by categories, so I have a list of dozens of shows......again - 1990's technology vs 21st century technology.

and I have yet to get slow motion to work.....

I believe you've been a dish customer so long you don't want to try and embrace/learn a new system. Nothing wrong with this at all. However, you can't compare technology if you're biased against one or the other. Personally I think directv has the upper hand. Having had both I would choose directv almost on every category. I say "almost" because there is some things dish dish did/does better and the same with directv but unless you're willing to try and embrace something different we are all wasting out times trying to compare apples to oranges
 
The one thing I have also noticed as an installer.

Many people like the system they had first. If you were a Dish customer first you like Dish better and vise vera for Directv.

I had Dish for 10 years. Making the switch, even though I had been working for Directv for almost 4 years was a big deal. I am still learning channels and tricks to the system. Yea there are things I liked better about Dish. The guide is a big one. But the pluses of Directv's system for me are far better. To be honest before Whole Home, I liked the 722 far better.
 
I believe you've been a dish customer so long you don't want to try and embrace/learn a new system. Nothing wrong with this at all. However, you can't compare technology if you're biased against one or the other.
it has nothing to do with a learning curve, it has to do with the features and ease of use.
1. Yes, I can sort my recordings by category, but I still have 30-40 shows listed. Dish - create folders, put shows in folders. Fairly simple. I did not have 50 kids shows on my dvr luist, I had a folder showing kids.....with all the shows in it.
That is not wanting to learn a new system, that is wondering why in the 21st century I can't create my own folders to store shows in.

directvtopc - again, it does NOT stream live tv....period. Dish does. With dish, as long as I have an internet connection, I can watch live tv, be it at home or in a different state.
With directvtopc, I have to record it 1st, then go to watch it.
try going out to your garage on saturday and watch/listen to college football games with directvtopc......good luck. 1st you need to decide which games to record, then at least on my computer it never resumes, but always starts back at the beginning. late in the 4th quarter in 2 games, both come down to the last possession. have fun trying to flip between them.
Dish - is exactly like sitting in front of the tv/receiver.
You do have to pull up the guide, but I just had 2 windows open......click it and hit watch.......

that has nothing to do with me not wanting to learn a new system - that has everything to do with directv not even coming close to offering the same services. You can NOT watch live tv on directvtopc....period.

Slow motion - tell u what, google "directv HR34 slow motion" and view the results. Basically people saying it does not work and a whole bunch or threads about slow motion being "quirky".....

Now google "dish 722 slow motion" - you will get a couple, only a couple "jerky" threads....period.

It is not like I just loved dish to death and thought why not change and not try to learn a new system.........no, I changed and the only thing I learned was that directv does not have many features that I just took for granted and figured anyone writing software would throw on a device - like being able to create folders.

Go to your dvr and hit list..........now imagine if you did that and instead of a hundred listings. that yes you can sort them by category, but instead you had 3 or 4 folders.....period. Any show u want to watch is in your folder, kids shows in another folder etc......tghat is not wanting to learn a new system, and that was using the 722 receiver that was a few years old......not a highly touted home media receiver that directv gave me.

U like directv, that is fine. me, I personally like being able to organize what i watch, being able to watch live tv on my computer and having slow motion - not having dvr functions in my other rooms is my bad....tho with the dish hopper, their multi room dvr, you do. I made the mistake of thinking directv was similar technology, so was my bad.

I did not know that not having those features just meant I needed to 'learbn a new system". Tho u are correct in that for now at least, I need to learn to live without them.

In one post, someone mentioned the 722 did not record the 2nd tv in HD - that is just wrong. It recorded both in HD. You could watch an hd DVR show and record 2 hd shows. I have not watched a standard show in who knows how long.
Down side with the 722 was the range. One bedroom worked off the receiver in the family room. The remote had a hard time, was out of range, and it was not that far away. I ended up fixing it by wrapping a speaker wire around the antennae and running it up behind the main tv towards the ceiling....worked fine then.
With the 722, if you wanted to watch picture in picture, that tied up the whole receiver. The other room had to watch that....I am thinking they could not even watch the dvr. Only time I ever used that tho was on saturdays for football games, so was never a huge deal.
Dish did not have amc.
I had to get the multi-sports package for $9.99 to get the Big Ten channel, even tho when I 1st got it, it listed the Big ten channel in the top 250.
dish had it's faults, but they now look miniscule to not being able top organize your dvr recordings, not being able to stream live tv and no slow motion.......,.
 
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directvtopc is, I believe, the only way you can watch on your pc, so that is how I have been using it. It does NOT stream live tv and it is a stutter machine.

Another thing I do not like at all.
The dvr - with the dish 722, I could create folders and put the shows in the folders so I did not have a huge long list of shows to scroll thru, mostly children's shows.
I have a bunch for my grandkids. With dish, I just created folders - kids, mine, wife.....shows were put in the appropriate folder -
as far as I can tell, you can not do that on direct, best you can do is sort them by categories, so I have a list of dozens of shows......again - 1990's technology vs 21st century technology.

and I have yet to get slow motion to work.....
Folders ?
Everytime I record a program that has more than one, it creates it's Own folder for that show, works perfect ...

Separate folders like your mentioning, via person or whatever would be nice, I think if D* wanted to do that, it would be VERY easy, a simple software change, provided it's not something that they can't do due to legal reasons.

Slow Motion only started in the last week or two ...
I haven't got it to work either, but keep forgetting to try.
 
it has nothing to do with a learning curve, it has to do with the features and ease of use.
1. Yes, I can sort my recordings by category, but I still have 30-40 shows listed. Dish - create folders, put shows in folders. Fairly simple. I did not have 50 kids shows on my dvr luist, I had a folder showing kids.....with all the shows in it.
That is not wanting to learn a new system, that is wondering why in the 21st century I can't create my own folders to store shows in.

directvtopc - again, it does NOT stream live tv....period. Dish does. With dish, as long as I have an internet connection, I can watch live tv, be it at home or in a different state.
With directvtopc, I have to record it 1st, then go to watch it.
try going out to your garage on saturday and watch/listen to college football games with directvtopc......good luck. 1st you need to decide which games to record, then at least on my computer it never resumes, but always starts back at the beginning. late in the 4th quarter in 2 games, both come down to the last possession. have fun trying to flip between them.
Dish - is exactly like sitting in front of the tv/receiver.
You do have to pull up the guide, but I just had 2 windows open......click it and hit watch.......

that has nothing to do with me not wanting to learn a new system - that has everything to do with directv not even coming close to offering the same services. You can NOT watch live tv on directvtopc....period.

Slow motion - tell u what, google "directv HR34 slow motion" and view the results. Basically people saying it does not work and a whole bunch or threads about slow motion being "quirky".....

Now google "dish 722 slow motion" - you will get a couple, only a couple "jerky" threads....period.

It is not like I just loved dish to death and thought why not change and not try to learn a new system.........no, I changed and the only thing I learned was that directv does not have many features that I just took for granted and figured anyone writing software would throw on a device - like being able to create folders.

Go to your dvr and hit list..........now imagine if you did that and instead of a hundred listings. that yes you can sort them by category, but instead you had 3 or 4 folders.....period. Any show u want to watch is in your folder, kids shows in another folder etc......tghat is not wanting to learn a new system, and that was using the 722 receiver that was a few years old......not a highly touted home media receiver that directv gave me.

U like directv, that is fine. me, I personally like being able to organize what i watch, being able to watch live tv on my computer and having slow motion - not having dvr functions in my other rooms is my bad....tho with the dish hopper, their multi room dvr, you do. I made the mistake of thinking directv was similar technology, so was my bad.

I did not know that not having those features just meant I needed to 'learbn a new system". Tho u are correct in that for now at least, I need to learn to live without them.

In one post, someone mentioned the 722 did not record the 2nd tv in HD - that is just wrong. It recorded both in HD. You could watch an hd DVR show and record 2 hd shows. I have not watched a standard show in who knows how long.
Down side with the 722 was the range. One bedroom worked off the receiver in the family room. The remote had a hard time, was out of range, and it was not that far away. I ended up fixing it by wrapping a speaker wire around the antennae and running it up behind the main tv towards the ceiling....worked fine then.
With the 722, if you wanted to watch picture in picture, that tied up the whole receiver. The other room had to watch that....I am thinking they could not even watch the dvr. Only time I ever used that tho was on saturdays for football games, so was never a huge deal.
Dish did not have amc.
I had to get the multi-sports package for $9.99 to get the Big Ten channel, even tho when I 1st got it, it listed the Big ten channel in the top 250.
dish had it's faults, but they now look miniscule to not being able top organize your dvr recordings, not being able to stream live tv and no slow motion.......,.

So your biggest issue is a very minor one in most peoples minds, folders ... never even thought about it, like I said, easy fix.

As for Slow Motion, they've done slow motion ever since the DVR became a DVR.

I think the SM that is new is to watch a play over or something like that, unless I'm missing the SM thing all together.

As for the 722 watching the 2nd show in HD, that doesn't work that way and you know it ....

Theres plenty of people that have had them here that know better ...

It's quite obvious that you didn't want to change to D* and are making zero effort to change ...
 
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