Here is what I have done. I have the elevation set to 30 (32 is the actual elevation, but was told to set it at 30 due to Fortec dishes being off), I have the skew to almost +30 (29.2 is the #). I think I have this right, it is postive, so counterclockwise. There are 6 marks on each side of the center mark. According to Sadoun's site, 30 degrees is the last mark. They show +30 to be on the right hand side of the lnb, but if I turn the lnb counterclockwise, then the negative side is "up" - if that makes sense. I don't know if the pic on their site is correct, but like I said it shows that this would be the negative side being up. So maybe that is my problem? I don't think so, as I turn the lnb counterclockwise (facing the dish). I have the receiver - fortec Lifetime Classic set to galaxy g10rk, tp - set to an active one that Iceberg gave me. I put the rest of the settings like he suggested. As for the satellite finder meter. sometimes it stays on "10" even if I have moved the dish half way around. I adjusted the gain as per the instructions. That gets me close, then I unhook it and try to slowly move the dish to get a signal - I move a smudge and wait 5-10 seconds. Getting back to the satellite finder, when I first adjust it, I adjust it so that it shows "5", then when it gets a signal, it increses. To me, it seems that I am overlooking something, as 7 hours today and 3 last night with no luck. I called a local satellite installer - he thought he could aim it, he wanted to make sure he didnt have to do anyting else, just aim it. He thinks ha can. He didn't know what a FTA or a KU band dish was. So, I am leary to pay $45 for him to come out. Well, I want to keep trying to set this up, but each time I get the same results. I tried for 97w, and a few others too, with no luck. Just a thought, My Dish Netowrk (119 and 110) are set up no problem. 123 is real close to 119, so line of site shluld not be a problem. Just curious though, would trees or houses in the next yard over interfere with g10? Probably between 10-50 feet away? Dish is ok like I said. Thanks for any ideas!