If I dont run phone to at least 1 (the primary) on my new installs, I'll get routed nothing but service calls and upgrades......We have to maintain a good percentage on phone lines or we wont get new installs.There are some that dont run phone and they literally run former installs,upgrades and service calls all the time only.I run phone and have low repeat sevice and SIN7 (service in 7 days) so I'm routed accordingly.Right now I've got nothing but 23's on board until they send us a giant batch of refurbs......the original post here represents only a small percentage of customers who actually know the difference between HD'DVR models.I'd be annoyed severly if my customer called my warehouse trying to get another tech to leave his route to bring a specific model to my onsite.Thats why I said I'd be long gone once that stuff started....let'em haggle it out with D*tv...I just dont have that kind of time and I dont think some installer should have to break off his route and not get paid to do a delivery for something the customer and D*tv should've agreed on before I got there.....I'd rather eat it and drive on.yeah working for an HSP is no picnic but it puts food on the table.