[VOOM] VOOM list now 2000 members

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80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.

If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
technology, VOOM has a few bugs. But don't let that scare you off.
No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD value
for the money.



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The dozen whiners that say they have Directv are also not Directv
charter subscribers-talk about bugs when Directv launched and the lack
of SD content, and the still poor picture quality, not to mention the
stupid installers at the beginning. . .

On Jul 23, 2004, at 7:58 PM, nostrodumb_ass wrote:

> 80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.
>
> If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
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> No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD value
> for the money.
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Plus don't forget that this Yahoogroup is available to the close to 10,000 members of SatelliteGuys.US (And the 70,000 Visitors we have each month too)

If your thinking about VOOM, don't think, just jump in now!

Come on in the waters fine! :)
 
Ditto!! You are ABSOLUTELY correct!!

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80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.

If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
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No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD value
for the money.



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[VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
Satelliteguys.com
2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV and I am not a "charter"
member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back in
November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own equipment in
March of 2004.
3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have locked up
once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot every 6 months.
4. Where I live, I loose DirecTv due to weather on average 4 times a
year. The outage has never lasted more than 10 minutes.

Voom has collected $95.00 from me every month since March. In that
time I have yet to watch one whole movie without some type of
incident such as stutters, box lockups, video or sound dropouts.

Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and installed
myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite rain or clouds a
couple of times a week. Since installing the 30" dish, I have not
noticed any outage, but that could be partly due to that I hardly
watch Voom anymore.

My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think it will
be the other way around.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Timothy fouts <timothyfouts@m...> wrote:
> The dozen whiners that say they have Directv are also not Directv
> charter subscribers-talk about bugs when Directv launched and the

lack
> of SD content, and the still poor picture quality, not to mention

the
> stupid installers at the beginning. . .
>
> On Jul 23, 2004, at 7:58 PM, nostrodumb_ass wrote:
>
> > 80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.
> >
> > If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
> > technology, VOOM has a few bugs. But don't let that scare you

off.
> > No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD

value
> > for the money.





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Re: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

Then good riddance-See ya

On Jul 24, 2004, at 6:37 AM, snappingfish wrote:

> 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> Satelliteguys.com
> 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV and I am not a "charter"
> member of Voom.  DirecTV let me install my own equipment back in
> November of 1995.  Voom would not let me install my own equipment in
> March of 2004.
> 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have locked up
> once in 9 years!  The DirecTivo box needs a reboot every 6 months.
> 4. Where I live, I loose DirecTv due to weather on average 4 times a
> year.  The outage has never lasted more than 10 minutes.
>
> Voom has collected $95.00 from me every month since March.  In that
> time I have yet to watch one whole movie without some type of
> incident such as stutters, box lockups, video or sound dropouts.
>
> Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and installed
> myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite rain or clouds a
> couple of times a week.  Since installing the 30" dish, I have not
> noticed any outage, but that could be partly due to that I hardly
> watch Voom anymore.
>
> My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV.  I think it will
> be the other way around.
>
>
> --- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Timothy fouts <timothyfouts@m...> wrote:
> > The dozen whiners  that say they have Directv are also not Directv
> > charter subscribers-talk about bugs when Directv launched and the

> lack
> > of SD content, and the still poor picture quality, not to mention

> the
> > stupid installers at the beginning. . .
> >
> > On Jul 23, 2004, at 7:58 PM, nostrodumb_ass wrote:
> >
> > > 80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.
> > >
> > >  If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
> > >  technology, VOOM has a few bugs. But don't let that scare you

> off.
> > >  No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD

> value
> > >  for the money.

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RE: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

I second that motion, if anything, what in the world took you so long to
realize Voom is not for you????
-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy fouts [mailto:timothyfouts@mac.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 7:48 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members


Then good riddance-See ya

On Jul 24, 2004, at 6:37 AM, snappingfish wrote:


1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
Satelliteguys.com
2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV and I am not a "charter"
member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back in
November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own equipment in
March of 2004.
3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have locked up
once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot every 6 months.
4. Where I live, I loose DirecTv due to weather on average 4 times a
year. The outage has never lasted more than 10 minutes.

Voom has collected $95.00 from me every month since March. In that
time I have yet to watch one whole movie without some type of
incident such as stutters, box lockups, video or sound dropouts.

Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and installed
myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite rain or clouds a
couple of times a week. Since installing the 30" dish, I have not
noticed any outage, but that could be partly due to that I hardly
watch Voom anymore.

My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think it will
be the other way around.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, Timothy fouts <timothyfouts@m...> wrote:
> The dozen whiners that say they have Directv are also not Directv
> charter subscribers-talk about bugs when Directv launched and the

lack
> of SD content, and the still poor picture quality, not to mention

the
> stupid installers at the beginning. . .
>
> On Jul 23, 2004, at 7:58 PM, nostrodumb_ass wrote:
>
> > 80% of the posts come from a dozen or so whiners.
> >
> > If you are new here, don't listen to them. Like any other new
> > technology, VOOM has a few bugs. But don't let that scare you

off.
> > No one even comes close is HD content. There is no better HD

value
> > for the money.






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[VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members

Me and many others wonder when in the world you will realize that
Voom needs customers (many customers) to stay in business.

If you are a cable (monopoly) company, I suppose it does not matter
that 50% of your customers are unhappy with your service. I do not
think that mentality will fly in the satellite business. IMHO.


--- In VOOM@yahoogroups.com, "Aldo A. Falla" <afalla@v...> wrote:
> I second that motion, if anything, what in the world took you so

long to
> realize Voom is not for you????





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Voom is a new company that has its issues that they have to work out....but there is no better service for HD right now. Not to mention the FREE Tyson fight in HD at the end of JULY. I would put VOOM's basic service up against any other providers basic service....and VOOM would win hands down. For fifty bucks a mth you just cant beat it. Despite VOOM's problems....you just cant find another provider that makes tv fun again. Give VOOM some time...there's no doubt that they will be the best out there.
 
RE: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members


> -----Original Message-----
> From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
>
> 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> and I am not a "charter"
> member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> in November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own
> equipment in March of 2004.


-- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over 1% of the
subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong. Remember
the 1 in 10 rule.

-- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make the
assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that time. Their
boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or features that
don't live up to their billing.


> 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> locked up once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> every 6 months.


-- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?

> Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> rain or clouds a couple of times a week. Since installing
> the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.


-- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could stop
watching?????

>
> My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think
> it will be the other way around.
>


I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if you're this
unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made weeks
ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?

One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going to call
up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read that one a
few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like suggesting
Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only giving it out
to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.

It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA stuff) is
full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I subscribe to a
regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These are
DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in between. Each
have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem or human
error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes it's a
network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or makes
demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are paying a
sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a more
mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge nature of the
technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it develops. We
could use a good dose of that over here.

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Bob Mankin said:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
>
> 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> and I am not a "charter"
> member of Voom. DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> in November of 1995. Voom would not let me install my own
> equipment in March of 2004.


-- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over 1% of the
subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong. Remember
the 1 in 10 rule.

-- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make the
assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that time. Their
boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or features that
don't live up to their billing.


> 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> locked up once in 9 years! The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> every 6 months.


-- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?

> Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> rain or clouds a couple of times a week. Since installing
> the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.


-- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could stop
watching?????

>
> My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV. I think
> it will be the other way around.
>


I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if you're this
unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made weeks
ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?

One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going to call
up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read that one a
few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like suggesting
Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only giving it out
to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.

It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA stuff) is
full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I subscribe to a
regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These are
DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in between. Each
have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem or human
error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes it's a
network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or makes
demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are paying a
sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a more
mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge nature of the
technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it develops. We
could use a good dose of that over here.

Bob







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Voom is NOT bleeding edge- HD has been arouund for a while. They do so much compression that the HD channels look like crap. What Voom is- is a cable company trying to sell satellite and needs to change it's approach. We don't have to keep Voom if we are unhappy, and many are leaving.

If every Voom HD channel looked like the HD News channel- 100 Voom would worth all the other annoying problems.
 
so good riddance and be gone with you

On Jul 24, 2004, at 3:03 PM, Seawaves wrote:

>
> Bob Mankin Wrote:
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: snappingfish [mailto:snappingfish@yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2004 4:37 AM
> > > To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [VOOM] Re: VOOM list now 2000 members
> > >
> > > 1. There are more than a dozen complainers, both here and on
> > > Satelliteguys.com 2. I was not a "charter" member of DirecTV
> > > and I am not a "charter"
> > > member of Voom.  DirecTV let me install my own equipment back
> > > in November of 1995.  Voom would not let me install my own
> > > equipment in March of 2004.

> >
> > -- Even if it's two dozen(being generous), that puts it just over

> 1% of
> > the
> > subscribing members. Either some real quiet people out there or your
> > assumptions of how many dissatisfied customers there are is wrong.
> > Remember
> > the 1 in 10 rule.
> >
> > -- You weren't there for the first year of DirecTV, but seem to make
> > the
> > assumption that they didn't have significant issues during that

> time.
> > Their
> > boxes today still have bugs, delayed feature enhancements or

> features
> > that
> > don't live up to their billing.
> >
> >
> > > 3. None of my DirecTV boxes (other than DirecTivo) have
> > > locked up once in 9 years!  The DirecTivo box needs a reboot
> > > every 6 months.

> >
> > -- Count your blessings. How many are HDTV boxes? DVRs?
> >
> > > Before I upgraded the Voom dish to 30" (purchased and
> > > installed myself), I would loose the Voom service due to lite
> > > rain or clouds a couple of times a week.  Since installing
> > > the 30" dish, I have not noticed any outage, but that could
> > > be partly due to that I hardly watch Voom anymore.

> >
> > -- You went to the trouble of installing a 30" dish so you could

> stop
> > watching?????
> >
> > >
> > > My intent when I ordered Voom was to drop DirecTV.  I think
> > > it will be the other way around.
> > >

> >
> > I sympathize with your frustration.....to a point. It seems if

> you're
> > this
> > unhappy a simple phone call for an uninstall should have been made
> > weeks
> > ago. What's the point of daily repetitive complaints to the list?
> >
> > One of the classics of the week is the one where they guy is going

> to
> > call
> > up and demand a new, bug free box or else. I think if he had read

> that
> > one a
> > few more times before posting he might not have posted. It's like
> > suggesting
> > Voom is just sitting on stable hardware and software, but only

> giving
> > it out
> > to those who complain loudly and often. Pretty silly.
> >
> > It's bleeding edge technology, kids. Part of the program(the OTA

> stuff)
> > is
> > full of potential issues that are beyond Voom's control. I

> subscribe to
> > a
> > regional HDTV list which has regular posts about OTA issues. These

> are
> > DirecTV setups, Dish setups, PC card setups and all things in

> between.
> > Each
> > have their issues. Sometimes it's a local station hardware problem

> or
> > human
> > error where someone literally forgets to throw the switch. Sometimes
> > it's a
> > network feed problem. But no one gets upset, throws tantrums or

> makes
> > demanding requests to the broadcasters and most of them too are

> paying
> > a
> > sizeable monthly program fee to one vendor or another. Seems to be a
> > more
> > mature attitude where most of them recognize the bleeding edge

> nature
> > of the
> > technology and are willing to roll with the punches while it

> develops.
> > We
> > could use a good dose of that over here.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >

>
> Voom is NOT bleeding edge- HD has been arouund for a while. They do so
> much compression that the HD channels look like crap. What Voom is- is
> a cable company trying to sell satellite and needs to change it's
> approach. We don't have to keep Voom if we are unhappy, and many are
> leaving.
>
> If every Voom HD channel looked like the HD News channel- 100 Voom
> would worth all the other annoying problems.
>
>
> --
> Seawaves
>
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