[VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE

thegrod said:
But the whole thing makes no sense. It's a very minor investment if you rent the equipment. It's not like investing in stock. You get the service for X amount/month and it's either worth it to you or not. Someday, when DirecTV actually has more than HD vaporware maybe they will be a legitimate choice. The DirecTV HD launch announcement is somewhat of a ploy to keep new HD people fom switching from DirecTV to VOOM or cable.
Why should the consumer be so concerned with VOOM's future? Just get the programming and enjoy it and don't buy the equipment at this point.
I would like them to suceed because I think their vision is very timely and the big DirecTV launch wouldn't be promoted right now without VOOM.

perfectly said...this isnt a marriage or a life long comittment..one year...big deal!!
Its amazing listening to all the negative complainers whine about VOOM's futrue when most of them don't even subscribe to the service!!

VOOM= lots of HD proggies
DTV= very little HD

pick one, and get on with your life!!!
 
Wase4711,
Thanks for the mutual agreement on VOOM! I got the no obligation, $40/month, free install deal a few months back. I guess I don't understand why anyone with an HDTV paying for cable or Pizza dish and without a pre-commitment wouldn't have changed to VOOM at that point. $9.50/month to rent this receiver is really very reasonable. It will be interesting to see what the DVR version will rent for.
VOOM is the only way to go right now for the HD junkie.
And DirecTV is full of it. No one is going to get 500 channels of HD from DirecTV.
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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 5:13 AM
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE



thegrod Wrote:
> But the whole thing makes no sense. It's a very minor investment if you
> rent the equipment. It's not like investing in stock. You get the
> service for X amount/month and it's either worth it to you or not.
> Someday, when DirecTV actually has more than HD vaporware maybe they
> will be a legitimate choice. The DirecTV HD launch announcement is
> somewhat of a ploy to keep new HD people fom switching from DirecTV to
> VOOM or cable.
> Why should the consumer be so concerned with VOOM's future? Just get
> the programming and enjoy it and don't buy the equipment at this
> point.
> I would like them to suceed because I think their vision is very timely
> and the big DirecTV launch wouldn't be promoted right now without VOOM.
>
> perfectly said...this isnt a marriage or a life long comittment..one
> year...big deal!!
> Its amazing listening to all the negative complainers whine about
> VOOM's futrue when most of them don't even subscribe to the service!!
>
> VOOM= lots of HD proggies
> DTV= very little HD
>
> pick one, and get on with your life!!!



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Why? Just don't get their DVR if you think it's too expensive. Don't you like the service?
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From: Chris Green
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


I'm patiently awaiting the VOOM DVR. If they charge us tons of money for it
however I will cancel immediately.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Grodner [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:20 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


If you are right in Houston and will get a strong non-multipath signal there
are some less expesive, first generation OTA tuners that will work decently.
If you have an HDTV then you should know that some of the best, least
compressed signals are the OTA ones. Sports, PBS, and some Network events
are better in HD. A tuner can be found for $100-$150 on ebay. a friend
gave me his 3 year old toshiba DST3000 DirectV HD receiver and it has an
adequate OTA tuner that does not require authorization as long as it's not
plugged into DTV's Satellite feed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Green
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


Honestly, if TWC had UPN in HD here in Houston I would switch in a
heartbeat. I'm not buying an OTA receiver just to watch Enterprise
though.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heitner [mailto:ddprobert@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:43 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


>>does anyone here expect Voom to stay afloat if they have under 100,000

subs by the middle of next year?

Not a chance! How they're staying afloat today with < 40,000 subscribers
after 1 year is in-itself mind boggling.

I too love Voom and will be with them until the service is turned off. TWC
here in Houston is now promoting their DVR and HD-DVR. All the normal
stuff.. record 2pgms and watch a third, PIP, etc.

My boss goats me almost daily now about what I'm missing out on. I just
tell
him that 11 HD channels does not come close to my 40+ and I would go into
withdrawl w/o Voom. My ratio of HD vs SD watching is about 70/30 now.

If TWC were to double their HD channels, I might be tempted to switch, but
that's about what it would take, if not more.

Here's to hoping Voom lives long and prosperous...

_____

From: vinnyv07 [mailto:satguys2004@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:23 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE



I love VOOm also...but at this point I have had VOOM for around 7 mths
or so. If I wanted to add another receiver the price would be high.
Its too high....they should take care of their present customers as
much as they could. And I feel that they have taken care of me ....2
free PPV fights in HD not to mention giving me much more than TWC did
for the same price. Voom has been very good. As for VOOm not
lasting...I hope it does , but you cant blame people for saying its
going to go under. I read in the paper that XM has 2.4 million
customers and they are losing around 500 million a year....Sirus has
600,000 customers and they are losing more than XM. So what is VOOm
losing? It must be a bundle. They should have a sub base of 2 million
by now and they are no where near that. Its a business....and when the
business shows little promise then it has to fold. If VOOM comes out
with a DVR and clients and if they transfer over to their new format
and if they add the ch's that people want...they will stay afloat.
Thats alot of ifs. I'm rooting for VOOM and I'm enjoying it now while I
have it....but does anyone here expect Voom to stay afloat if they have
under 100,000 subs by the middle of next year?


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I gave up my Tivo when I switched to Voom as the Tivo would not record OTA
channels from the Voom receiver. A DVR "in the works" was a key reason I
switched to Voom. I switched then because of the free install and no
commitment. My Voom isn't going anywhere until they release the DVR (or
stall too long). If there is a reasonable swap out for the DVR I'll jump on
it, If not I'll pass and go back to Time Warner. No big deal. *I love my
Voom*, however most of the channels we watch are OTA and/or SD. I would
miss a few of the HD Originals, but it wouldn't be the end of the world. At
least I could have multiple receivers again without emptying the bank.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: thegrod [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 7:39 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


Why? Just don't get their DVR if you think it's too expensive. Don't you
like the service?
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Green
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


I'm patiently awaiting the VOOM DVR. If they charge us tons of money for
it
however I will cancel immediately.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: Bruce Grodner [mailto:bruceg@htva.net]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 2:20 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


If you are right in Houston and will get a strong non-multipath signal
there
are some less expesive, first generation OTA tuners that will work
decently.
If you have an HDTV then you should know that some of the best, least
compressed signals are the OTA ones. Sports, PBS, and some Network events
are better in HD. A tuner can be found for $100-$150 on ebay. a friend
gave me his 3 year old toshiba DST3000 DirectV HD receiver and it has an
adequate OTA tuner that does not require authorization as long as it's not
plugged into DTV's Satellite feed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Green
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


Honestly, if TWC had UPN in HD here in Houston I would switch in a
heartbeat. I'm not buying an OTA receiver just to watch Enterprise
though.

Chris Green


-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heitner [mailto:ddprobert@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:43 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


>>does anyone here expect Voom to stay afloat if they have under 100,000

subs by the middle of next year?

Not a chance! How they're staying afloat today with < 40,000 subscribers
after 1 year is in-itself mind boggling.

I too love Voom and will be with them until the service is turned off.
TWC
here in Houston is now promoting their DVR and HD-DVR. All the normal
stuff.. record 2pgms and watch a third, PIP, etc.

My boss goats me almost daily now about what I'm missing out on. I just
tell
him that 11 HD channels does not come close to my 40+ and I would go
into
withdrawl w/o Voom. My ratio of HD vs SD watching is about 70/30 now.

If TWC were to double their HD channels, I might be tempted to switch,
but
that's about what it would take, if not more.

Here's to hoping Voom lives long and prosperous...

_____

From: vinnyv07 [mailto:satguys2004@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 12:23 PM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE



I love VOOm also...but at this point I have had VOOM for around 7 mths
or so. If I wanted to add another receiver the price would be high.
Its too high....they should take care of their present customers as
much as they could. And I feel that they have taken care of me ....2
free PPV fights in HD not to mention giving me much more than TWC did
for the same price. Voom has been very good. As for VOOm not
lasting...I hope it does , but you cant blame people for saying its
going to go under. I read in the paper that XM has 2.4 million
customers and they are losing around 500 million a year....Sirus has
600,000 customers and they are losing more than XM. So what is VOOm
losing? It must be a bundle. They should have a sub base of 2 million
by now and they are no where near that. Its a business....and when the
business shows little promise then it has to fold. If VOOM comes out
with a DVR and clients and if they transfer over to their new format
and if they add the ch's that people want...they will stay afloat.
Thats alot of ifs. I'm rooting for VOOM and I'm enjoying it now while I
have it....but does anyone here expect Voom to stay afloat if they have
under 100,000 subs by the middle of next year?


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I am using SageTV to record both OTA's and Sat channels from voom. I've discussed it quite a bit on the satelliteguys.us forum. Works like a champ, and is in many ways better than TiVo.... just not as good as the UCentric network that Voom will hopefully eventually have.
 
How do you record HD signals? Or are you recording the SD output version?

Chris Green

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I am using SageTV to record both OTA's and Sat channels from voom. I've
discussed it quite a bit on the satelliteguys.us forum. Works like a
champ, and is in many ways better than TiVo.... just not as good as the
UCentric network that Voom will hopefully eventually have.


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The problem with this for me is you have to have the PC next to your HD Tv.

How inconvenient? I don't know about you, but I have a home theater and the
last thing I want next to my big screen HD is a computer w/monitor.

I have the ATI HDTV wonder card in my pc in my home office but I don't have
an OTA or my VOOM feed going into that room so it's useless.

_____

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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:23 AM
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I am using SageTV to record both OTA's and Sat channels from voom. I've
discussed it quite a bit on the satelliteguys.us forum. Works like a
champ, and is in many ways better than TiVo.... just not as good as the
UCentric network that Voom will hopefully eventually have.


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Even if you did, that card could only capture OTA. I have yet to see an HD
capture card that will capture HD over Component or DVI.

Chris Green


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Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 11:10 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE


The problem with this for me is you have to have the PC next to your HD Tv.

How inconvenient? I don't know about you, but I have a home theater and the
last thing I want next to my big screen HD is a computer w/monitor.

I have the ATI HDTV wonder card in my pc in my home office but I don't have
an OTA or my VOOM feed going into that room so it's useless.

_____

From: CraziFuzzy [mailto:satguys2004@yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2004 10:23 AM
To: VOOM@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [VOOM] VOOM OUTRAGE



I am using SageTV to record both OTA's and Sat channels from voom. I've
discussed it quite a bit on the satelliteguys.us forum. Works like a
champ, and is in many ways better than TiVo.... just not as good as the
UCentric network that Voom will hopefully eventually have.


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Need some advice!!! I can get 3 rooms wired with
recievers for about $900....with zoom, but a freind
told me that zoom might not last and There is a chance
my purchase would be lost!! Please help me make up my
mind!! Thanks to all!!!
--- CraziFuzzy <satguys2004@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> I am using SageTV to record both OTA's and Sat
> channels from voom. I've
> discussed it quite a bit on the satelliteguys.us
> forum. Works like a
> champ, and is in many ways better than TiVo.... just
> not as good as the
> UCentric network that Voom will hopefully eventually
> have.
>
>
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