Where are the HD channels Dish?

[lucky86]

I would bet it's in the 200 because they are charged more for the hd feed or maybe a part of the agreement they have with NBA TV. Maybe it was normally going to be in the 200 or higher but maybe they decided to offer it in the 120 +/MSP in SD in an attempt to offer it to more viewers.

 

[inazsully]

The sooner SD is dropped completely the better. Necessity is the mother of invention. If you need a HD set to watch TV you'll get one.

 

[dishfan82]

Here's my Dish HD annoyance (major aggravation). I have the 120+ package and pay for the Multi-sport package at $9 per month. But two of the sports channels that I care most about are almost unwatchable in SD, NBA-TV and ESPNU. I know about the Disney vs. Dish dispute but the more folks whine, the sooner it gets resolved. I don't get the reasoning for NBA in HD only in the 200 channel package or higher. That just is not sufficient incentive to pay above the 120+ level program package. Is nothing that can be done to at least upgrade the PQ for these SD signals???

I totally agree. Watching any bowl games this year was worthless on it. Any sports in sd is pointless to watch. Before hd came out sd was the thing but now hd is the thing and sd is slowly fading. See a lot of times the Disney channel plays Disney jr shows. All the csr's do is tell me that I can submit a channel request and check back later . D has channels in hd that E doesn't and vise versa but D added more channels in hd recently.

 

[lucky86]

Doesn't Dish have about 15 more HD channels than Direct?

 

[Tampa8]

They had more than that at one time, (If Full time RSN's excluded) but I have not kept count and while Dish has added more, Direct has added quite a few.

Edit ... By my count, in their highest packages (Everything package and Premier package) that include all the channels they offer which does include the premium movie channels, but not including extra packages such as BB or on demand channels, the count is virtually a tie.

 

[Tampa8]

Here's my Dish HD annoyance (major aggravation). I have the 120+ package and pay for the Multi-sport package at $9 per month. But two of the sports channels that I care most about are almost unwatchable in SD, NBA-TV and ESPNU. I know about the Disney vs. Dish dispute but the more folks whine, the sooner it gets resolved. I don't get the reasoning for NBA in HD only in the 200 channel package or higher. That just is not sufficient incentive to pay above the 120+ level program package. Is nothing that can be done to at least upgrade the PQ for these SD signals???

I agree with you, I think. I understand putting NBA TV HD in higher packages, either as a business decision or per the NBA. It's not that someone might go to that package for it (though they might at least during the season) but it's the combination of NBA HD and other channels they hope entice someone to get that package.
But it's the other part of the equation I agree with. If you pay for the Sports package, to me all channels in it should be HD assuming Dish carries them in HD. Only thing we don't know, in this case the NBA, do they allow it.

 

[carrey]

I watch a lot of soccer and I hate not been able to watch BEing HD in HD is the name of the channel for crying out loud and dish don't even carry gol tv that's a shame and Univision deportes channel is not in HD I Install Uverse and if I could get it at my house I would they carry way better programming than dish and the video on demand is awesome they even have 3D movies for free in VOD I hope dish step it up and get more channels I pay 109 dollars a month for 200 with HD. Hopper and 2 joeys no premium channels I think I'm going to give Directv a try when my contract is over

 

[TNGTony]

BEin HD is available on Dish. It may not be on your package, but it is available. I am looking at it now.

 

[Bobby]

I watch BEin in HD all the time... and it is true HD....

 

[Yespage]

I watch a lot of soccer and I hate not been able to watch BEing HD in HD is the name of the channel for crying out loud and dish don't even carry gol tv that's a shame and Univision deportes channel is not in HD I Install Uverse and if I could get it at my house I would they carry way better programming than dish and the video on demand is awesome they even have 3D movies for free in VOD I hope dish step it up and get more channels I pay 109 dollars a month for 200 with HD. Hopper and 2 joeys no premium channels I think I'm going to give Directv a try when my contract is over

Odd... you could slice your bill by $10+ (and could afford a little more punctuation) if you dropped to Latino Dos, and you'd get bein Sport HD. Granted, it'd be in spanish, but nothing is perfect. And how are you getting Univision Deportes with 200?

 

[rajmarie]

Odd... you could slice your bill by $10+ (and could afford a little more punctuation) if you dropped to Latino Dos, and you'd get bein Sport HD. Granted, it'd be in spanish, but nothing is perfect. And how are you getting Univision Deportes with 200?

Because Univision Deportes is part of At200 package and above.

 

[Tampa8]

I watch a lot of soccer and I hate not been able to watch BEing HD in HD is the name of the channel for crying out loud and dish don't even carry gol tv that's a shame and Univision deportes channel is not in HD I Install Uverse and if I could get it at my house I would they carry way better programming than dish and the video on demand is awesome they even have 3D movies for free in VOD I hope dish step it up and get more channels I pay 109 dollars a month for 200 with HD. Hopper and 2 joeys no premium channels I think I'm going to give Directv a try when my contract is over

Not only are you paying more than you have too with just that package and the Hopper, you haven't taken the time to see what's included. As pointed out BEin is in HD on Dish. You can't care all that much if you didn't look for it? GolTV was dropped by Comcast also, and Direct TV dropped it from the Sports Pack, and is now only available in a Spanish package, and only in SD. GolTV has lost most of what most would watch it for.

Top 200, with Hopper and 2 Joeys should be 88.99 if you do not have a promotion. If you are willing to give Dish another $10 for HD that you don't have to pay, then it's 99.99 plus possibly Tax. So you are paying somewhere around $15 to $20 more than you have to, and Dish thanks you for that.

What "programming" you find better I'm not sure unless you are more specific. I can tell you this, I am familiar with Uverse in New Britain Ct, and I would not want their PQ, freezing, or receivers over Dish.

 

[GaryPen]

The sad thing is that SD does not need to be unwatchable. SD is basically the same resolution as DVD's. But, Dish (as well as DirecTV and some cableco's) compress the living crap out of them and reduce the bit rate, in order to conserve bandwidth. It's even worse with the local channels, where they need to cram a shipload of channels into spotbeam TP's.

Plus, they keep dumbing down the PQ of the HD channels, as well. Some day, it will be the equivalent of HQ SD. But, nobody will realize it, as the few SD channels left will look like crap in comparison, and nobody will remember what unadulterated SD or HD used to look like.

 

[dbs2000]

The sad thing is that SD does not need to be unwatchable. SD is basically the same resolution as DVD's. But, Dish (as well as DirecTV and some cableco's) compress the living crap out of them and reduce the bit rate, in order to conserve bandwidth. It's even worse with the local channels, where they need to cram a shipload of channels into spotbeam TP's.

Plus, they keep dumbing down the PQ of the HD channels, as well. Some day, it will be the equivalent of HQ SD. But, nobody will realize it, as the few SD channels left will look like crap in comparison, and nobody will remember what unadulterated SD or HD used to look like.

You got that right. PQ is going down the tubes.

 

[dare2be]

The sad thing is that SD does not need to be unwatchable. SD is basically the same resolution as DVD's. But, Dish (as well as DirecTV and some cableco's) compress the living crap out of them and reduce the bit rate, in order to conserve bandwidth. It's even worse with the local channels, where they need to cram a shipload of channels into spotbeam TP's.

Plus, they keep dumbing down the PQ of the HD channels, as well. Some day, it will be the equivalent of HQ SD. But, nobody will realize it, as the few SD channels left will look like crap in comparison, and nobody will remember what unadulterated SD or HD used to look like.

You forgot to mention OTA channels as well, where some of them cram many subchannels on one frequency, which makes not only the SD subchannels bitrate starved, but the main HD channel bitrate starved as well.

 

[KKlare]

Hey, things goes the other way. Our 2 local (ABQ) OTA PBS HD channels were missing. But last fall they were added Local-into-Local (LIL) over Dish and the file sizes dropped a factor of 3. A month ago or so the sizes jumped up to the OTA size. There might, just might, be an improvement in quality but it makes archiving a bigger, more time- and disk-consuming task. So why is Dish wasting the bandwidth? Or does it not matter if they cannot add anymore to the transponders? There is always the sub-channels.
-Ken

 

[TheKrell]

Or does it not matter if they cannot add anymore to the transponders? There is always the sub-channels.

I think that's got to be right. If there are no more channels available to load onto a transponder, they might as well put them up in better quality. They might add subchannels instead. But I haven't seen any suggestion that they will ever do that, and it would not be possible for more densely populated parts of the country.

 

[bluegras]

no new HD Channels listed yet in the uplink reports.i wonder where are they?

 

[dare2be]

*ignore on*

only the 2nd time I've used it.

 

[Tampa8]