would america have been SAFER with kerry?

with who would you be safer at this point? post 911

  • kerry as president

    Votes: 49 37.4%
  • bush as president

    Votes: 82 62.6%

  • Total voters
    131
  • Poll closed .
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Wow, this thread is still alive? It has obviously degenerated into what I expected after reading the first post. Lets keep the personal insults to a minimum and if possible discuss the original topic, or better yet, just let the thread die :).
 
It's definitely a pattern, involving the same players. I love a spirited debate. Unfortunately, there's not much of a debate happening in these "political" threads ... merely armchair pundits trying to sound superior and in the process exposing themselves for what they are and simultaneously revealing the weak underbelly of our society. Let's keep America strong, while retaining the sense of civility that separates our great country from much of the rest of the eroding planet. That civility is not attained or retained by verbally or typographically thrashing your neighbor.


HokieEngineer said:
Wow, this thread is still alive? It has obviously degenerated into what I expected after reading the first post. Lets keep the personal insults to a minimum and if possible discuss the original topic, or better yet, just let the thread die :).
 
Well, my point was an dstill is to emphasize how utterly stupid every single politico thread is... ;) show me one not retarded one here, at SatGuys, without this distinct McCarthy-syled idiotic cehstbeating and I'll retract this and join that in the blink of an eye...
 
T2k said:
Well, my point was an dstill is to emphasize how utterly stupid every single politico thread is... ;) show me one not retarded one here, at SatGuys, without this distinct McCarthy-syled idiotic cehstbeating and I'll retract this and join that in the blink of an eye...

What?

I guess if we didn't need an enigma machine to decipher your posts others might see your point. I doubt it, but it's better than typing jibberish.
 
dragon002 said:
but he is superior to us americans, he was "edumacated " in europe.

more like indoctrinated.

Communist Europe to boot Dragon.. LMAO. We have a supposedly former communist telling us how our Constitutional Republic should operate.:rolleyes:
 
Constitutional Representative Republic to be exact.

thats right kids we are NOT a democracy. never have been.

this may shock the libs out there. but please stand corrected.
 
I think that someone should point out that no matter what poll you take, or what polls have been taken, the majority of Americans do feel safer in our country from terrorism with what Mr. Bush has done over the last 5 years. I for one am a Reagan Conservative, so I do think Mr. Bush falls short in a few areas. But the most important thing is to make sure terrorists are not blowing up buildings and killing Thousands of Americans in major cities. That way there there are more Americans around and not dead from Terrorist attacks to criticise and bash him!
 
joedekock said:
I think that someone should point out that no matter what poll you take, or what polls have been taken, the majority of Americans do feel safer in our country from terrorism with what Mr. Bush has done over the last 5 years. I for one am a Reagan Conservative, so I do think Mr. Bush falls short in a few areas. But the most important thing is to make sure terrorists are not blowing up buildings and killing Thousands of Americans in major cities. That way there there are more Americans around and not dead from Terrorist attacks to criticise and bash him!

AMEN!!!!!!!

I feel 100% the way you do, I to am a Reagan Conservative so I agree with every word above.
 
why even go thru this so called trial, he is guilty as hell.

tie him to a chair, hang bacon strips off of him , add 25,000 volts...presto....straight to hell and no virgins!!
 
Maybe this will change some thoughts,

http://www.comcast.net/news/index.jsp?cat=GENERAL&fn=/2006/03/27/354799.html&cvqh=itn_dirtybombs

'Dirty Bombs' Crossed U.S. Borders in Test
By LIZ SIDOTI, Associated Press Writer
Mon Mar 27, 7:21 PM

WASHINGTON - Undercover investigators slipped radioactive material _ enough to make two small "dirty bombs" _ across U.S. borders in Texas and Washington state in a test last year of security at American points of entry.

Radiation alarms at the unidentified sites detected the small amounts of cesium-137, a nuclear material used in industrial gauges. But U.S. customs agents permitted the investigators to enter the United States because they were tricked with counterfeit documents.

The Bush administration said Monday that within 45 days it will give U.S. Customs and Border Protection agents the tools they need to verify such documents in the future.

The Government Accountability Office's report, the subject of a Senate hearing Tuesday, said detection equipment used by U.S. customs agents to screen people, vehicles and cargo for radioactive substances appeared to work as designed.

But the investigation, carried out simultaneously at both border crossings in December 2005, also identified potential security holes terrorists might be able to exploit to sneak nuclear materials into the United States.

"This operation demonstrated that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission is stuck in a pre-9/11 mind-set in a post-9/11 world and must modernize its procedures," Sen. Norm Coleman, R-Minn., said Monday in a statement.

The NRC, in charge of overseeing nuclear reactor and nuclear substance safety, challenged that notion.

"Security has been of prime importance for us on the materials front and the power plant front since 9/11," commission spokesman David McIntyre said in an interview.

The head of the Homeland Security Department's Domestic Nuclear Detection Office, Vayl Oxford, said the substance could have been used in a radiological weapon with limited effects.

A Senate Homeland Security subcommittee, which Coleman leads, released details of the investigation and two GAO reports on radiation detectors and port security before hearings on the issues this week.

The GAO, the investigative arm of Congress, also found that installation of radiation detectors is taking too long and costing more money than the U.S. expected. It said the Homeland Security Department's goal of installing 3,034 detectors by September 2009 across the United States _ at border crossings, seaports, airports and mail facilities _ was "unlikely" to be met and said the government probably will spend $342 million more than it expects.

Between October 2000 and October 2005, the GAO said, the government spent about $286 million installing radiation monitors inside the United States.

To test security at U.S. borders with Mexico and Canada, GAO investigators represented themselves as employees of a fake company. When stopped, they presented counterfeit shipping papers and NRC documents that allegedly permitted them to receive, acquire, possess and transfer radioactive substances.

Investigators found that customs agents weren't able to check whether a person caught with radioactive materials was permitted to possess the materials under a government-issued license.

"Unless nuclear smugglers in possession of faked license documents raised suspicions in some other way, CBP officers could follow agency guidelines yet unwittingly allow them to enter the country with their illegal nuclear cargo," a report said. It described this problem as "a significant gap" in the nation's safety procedures.

Jayson Ahern, the assistant customs commissioner for field operations, said a system for customs agents to confirm the authenticity of government licenses will be in place within 45 days. Ahern noted the radiation detectors had sounded alarms.

"We're pleased when a test like this is able to demonstrate the efficacy of our technology," Ahern said.

False radiation alarms are common _ sometimes occurring more than 100 times a day _ although the GAO said inspectors generally do a good job distinguishing nuisance alarms from actual ones. False alarms can be caused by ceramics, fertilizers, bananas and even patients who have recently undergone some types of medical procedures.

At one port _ which investigators did not identify _ a director frustrated over false alarms was worried that backed-up trains might block the entrance to a nearby military base until an alarm was checked out. The director's solution: simply turn off the radiation detector.

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Associated Press writer Ted Bridis contributed to this report.

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On the Net:

Customs and Border Protection: http://www.cbp.gov/

Government Accountability Office: http://www.gao.gov/

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
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joedekock said:
I think that someone should point out that no matter what poll you take, or what polls have been taken, the majority of Americans do feel safer in our country from terrorism with what Mr. Bush has done over the last 5 years. I for one am a Reagan Conservative, so I do think Mr. Bush falls short in a few areas. But the most important thing is to make sure terrorists are not blowing up buildings and killing Thousands of Americans in major cities. That way there there are more Americans around and not dead from Terrorist attacks to criticise and bash him!

Too bad it's complee and utter BS.
We knew Bush is lying but now every single ignorant Bush-fan too...?
 
T2k said:
Too bad it's complee and utter BS.
We knew Bush is lying but now every single ignorant Bush-fan too...?

Now, now... please don't try to make it out like polls and the media are against a guy like you and your liberal friends! That's desperate man! I gave you more credit than that! :)

And let me just ask this.... Who's in office? Who Controls the Senate? Who Controls the House? What kind of Judges are we seeing get voted to the Bench? :)

I have not seen you in a while on the boards T2K... I was starting to miss you! I am Glad to see you again! :)
 
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