Installer Trick

gdbrown

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I was helping another installer on a job he had because he was having probs aiming a 1000.4 dish. So pulled out my Super Buddy and went to the dish and he was clipping a tree but it couldnt be moved anywhere else. He could have aime a 1000.2dish but he didnt have one and either did i. So I converted the 1000.4 dish to a 1000.2made adjustments ,swung the dish and bam..perfect signal.All you have to do is cut off the 2 little tits stinking out on the front of the LNBF. Works like a champ. Good info if your stuck out on your last joband need a certain dish. DONT TRY TO CONVERT A 1000.2 to a 1000.4. Dish is smaller and the LNBF wont pick the signal up very little if any.
 
I feel sorry for your customer, half a$$ed instead of doing it right. Go back to the warehouse and get a correct dish. Now future service calls will have wrong equipment if LNB needs service.
 
Dont feel sorry for the customer they were very happy. This was a service call because they were not get their HD channels now they are at great signal strengh. I wouldnt have did it except there is nothing wrong with it.the LNB fit in there just like it would on the 1000.2. I been installing for 9 years and am quite the perfectionist so there you go.
 
Also the work order was modified to a 1000.2 and dish was tuned with a super buddy so i feel quite confident there wont be any service calls for signal loss.
 
They've also announced to us (us being install techs) that they're making a Western Arc LNB to fit on the 1000.4 dish. Soon we'll be installing nothing but 1000.4 with the Eastern or Western LNB. So, really, you're just ahead of the game!

Also, for the naysayer, absolutely nothing wrong with making it work. I've had strange situations that warranted going outside the scope of 'standard' to get the system working well. Innovation is not half-assedness. Also, you should be able to get better signal strengths with a .4 dish pointed at western arc. Bigger dish, more gain.
 
This makes a lot of sense. It makes things simpler (for a change). I have been thinking lately how nice it would be for them to use the same dish for different lnb's. All they need to do is use a different adapter.
 
I was helping another installer on a job he had because he was having probs aiming a 1000.4 dish. So pulled out my Super Buddy and went to the dish and he was clipping a tree but it couldnt be moved anywhere else. He could have aime a 1000.2dish but he didnt have one and either did i. So I converted the 1000.4 dish to a 1000.2made adjustments ,swung the dish and bam..perfect signal.All you have to do is cut off the 2 little tits stinking out on the front of the LNBF. Works like a champ. Good info if your stuck out on your last joband need a certain dish. DONT TRY TO CONVERT A 1000.2 to a 1000.4. Dish is smaller and the LNBF wont pick the signal up very little if any.

could you explain how this helps? not being a "little dish" installer I am not real sure what you are saying but am very interested in this because I would like to peak one of my dishes and maybe this will help.

pics would be great, too!!
 
Another problem down the road I see from this.... the Work order called for a certain type of dish. You most likely didn't change the work order cause it would have or prob would have cost the customer more (the 1000.4 kits cost more) and now if there is a service call the next one out will either end up fixing a problem and the work is now their's unless they change it.

What you should have done was either went back and got the correct equipment or rescheduled it till you could instead of making up some way for it to work.

I don't call this a trick at all but more like a failed attempt at a good install. As one said, the customer got screwed in this ordeal but prob didn't care cause at least they have TV... OMG the thought of no TV to some people is just amazing! :rolleyes:
 
I am not a dish installer but i do install all my own equipment. Because i have trees and some los problems, I installed 2 300 dishes for my ea. They worked fine but i would get rainfade often. I picked up a couple of 1000.2 dishes at yardsales and fabricated ends for them to fit my dishpro duals from the 300 dishes. After mounting these in place of the 300 dishes i increased my signal strength greatly and pretty much eliminated all the rainfade.

Sometimes deviating from standard can bring better results.
 
I use the same setup but with the 3LNB adapter (holder) using the center location. No good at fabricating. Aimed at 61.5. Using a 24" single lnb dish for 72.7. Then I run both outputs from each LNB to two DPP33s giving me the option to run up to six receivers. SS 15-20% higher.
 
yeah, install tricks.... using a modified oval DTV dish for my HD sat (129). Works great, but wouldn't do it for anyone if it was my profession.
 
Another problem down the road I see from this.... the Work order called for a certain type of dish. You most likely didn't change the work order cause it would have or prob would have cost the customer more (the 1000.4 kits cost more) and now if there is a service call the next one out will either end up fixing a problem and the work is now their's unless they change it.

What you should have done was either went back and got the correct equipment or rescheduled it till you could instead of making up some way for it to work.

I don't call this a trick at all but more like a failed attempt at a good install. As one said, the customer got screwed in this ordeal but prob didn't care cause at least they have TV... OMG the thought of no TV to some people is just amazing! :rolleyes:

What are you? The Dish Police? Installer is happy.. Customer is happy.. Seems like the only one unhappy is you. :)
 
What are you? The Dish Police? Installer is happy.. Customer is happy.. Seems like the only one unhappy is you. :)

no, I'm a installer myself and I'm as upset at how they run things as the next guy, but this is just wrong. Why fool around with a customers setup when that's not what they were supposed to get. Your costing the company more money regardless if someone is a company man or not that's just not the way to go about it. The simple solution here would have been to reschedule it and return, no biggie and the whole thing gets done the RIGHT way. I can assure you this as a Dish Customer myself I wouldn't want someone rigging something up on my home just to make it work. I'd want exactly what I was supposed to get.

Instead of questioning me about how I object to this "trick" maybe you should be asking yourself if it is indeed a trick or just a quick way to avoid more work and being lazy in the long run cause it sure sounds like it.
 
no, I'm a installer myself and I'm as upset at how they run things as the next guy, but this is just wrong. Why fool around with a customers setup when that's not what they were supposed to get. Your costing the company more money regardless if someone is a company man or not that's just not the way to go about it. The simple solution here would have been to reschedule it and return, no biggie and the whole thing gets done the RIGHT way. I can assure you this as a Dish Customer myself I wouldn't want someone rigging something up on my home just to make it work. I'd want exactly what I was supposed to get.

Instead of questioning me about how I object to this "trick" maybe you should be asking yourself if it is indeed a trick or just a quick way to avoid more work and being lazy in the long run cause it sure sounds like it.

To reschedule the customer for another truck roll would have cost the company more money than the extra 10 minutes he spent modifying the 1000.2 bracket. Work orders are constantly incorrect on a daily basis and whose job is it to correct them? The Techs. It’s our job to go out there and get the job done and as long as this mod achieved the minimum signal threshold, there’s nothing wrong with it except to those who play by the books. To be a successful satellite installer requires innovation and thinking outside the box and this is a great tip that I will pass on.
 
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