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You don't necessarily need to get above the trees, you just need to get high enough that the signal can get through them more easily. <pre> || * || *** || ***** || ******* ___ ||...

13-30 is too low to receive a picture.

If you're less than 10 miles from the towers the winegard sensar will actually work just fine. The problem with trees can be overcome by installing a taller mast, usually anyway. Try calling voom and see if they'll enter a service call for an installer to put a 10 or 20 foot pole for the antenna...