Joey Suprise - No Coax needed

Smwoodward

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When connecting a Joey over cat5 are there any settings to change or is it plug and play? Also can it be run on a LAN that does not have internet conection available (i assume it will as it's just a Hopper to Joey link)? Has anyone had issues with cable lenght on cat5?

Cheers

D.M.

I would make sure that the coax is connected and operating first, then add the cat5 and let it obtain an IP address. Then unhook the coax. I'm not sure about running it on a segment of network that does not have internet access, but at the same point I would want to ask why not give that segment of network internet access? Its very easy to do and it would also keep you from having two routers/DHCP servers. If it's that you don't want the hopper/joeys to have internet access, I would just leave them on the MOCA network and not hook up the hopper to it. Cat5 cable length is 100 meters (328 feet). If you need to go further than that, I would look into setting up a wireless bridge.
 

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Works fine without internet access but the LAN segment must have a DHCP server such as a router to work.
 

D.M.

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I would make sure that the coax is connected and operating first, then add the cat5 and let it obtain an IP address. Then unhook the coax. I'm not sure about running it on a segment of network that does not have internet access, but at the same point I would want to ask why not give that segment of network internet access? Its very easy to do and it would also keep you from having two routers/DHCP servers. If it's that you don't want the hopper/joeys to have internet access, I would just leave them on the MOCA network and not hook up the hopper to it. Cat5 cable length is 100 meters (328 feet). If you need to go further than that, I would look into setting up a wireless bridge.

Yep, worked perfectly as described.

Took 1 cat5 from the Hopper to a cheap router with wifi turned off. 1 cat5 to each Joey (est 120-150ft) wait about 1 min and picture just pops up.

This was a perfect solution as the clients house had a central system and was sending picture over component baluns with IR over single cat5 to each TV point.
We could have used HDMI baluns with IR over single cat5 but they are VERY expensive and the Joey remote does not have IR out for the Joey (Dish, WTF? A universal learning remote with no IR for your own product?).

This was a great solution and only cost was a $40 router.

Cheers

D.M.
 

D.M.

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Yep, worked perfectly as described.

Took 1 cat5 from the Hopper to a cheap router with wifi turned off. 1 cat5 to each Joey (est 120-150ft) wait about 1 min and picture just pops up.

This was a perfect solution as the clients house had a central system and was sending picture over component baluns with IR over single cat5 to each TV point.
We could have used HDMI baluns with IR over single cat5 but they are VERY expensive and the Joey remote does not have IR out for the Joey (Dish, WTF? A universal learning remote with no IR for your own product?).


Update:

One problem, the router has started crashing and needs to be reset every day and the home owner is now pissed at us (even though we found a way to make it work on their antiquated system).
We used a WRT120N router with just 1 Hopper and 2 Joeys attached no internet and wifi is off. Has anyone had similar issues? I wonder if its an issue with the router we have or if it would happen with a better brand.
As an AV/Home Automation installer i'm not that knowlagable on the Hopper etc, is there a way to turn off DHCP and assign static IP's in the Hopper/Joey?

Any info is much appreciated.

Cheers

D.M.
 
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Smwoodward

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Update:

One problem, the router has started crashing and needs to be reset every day and the home owner is now pissed at us (even though we found a way to make it work on their antiquated system).
We used a WRT120N router with just 1 Hopper and 2 Joeys attached no internet and wifi is off. Has anyone had similar issues? I wonder if its an issue with the router we have or if it would happen with a better brand.
As an AV/Home Automation installer i'm not that knowlagable on the Hopper etc, is there a way to turn off DHCP and assign static IP's in the Hopper/Joey?

Any info is much appreciated.

Cheers

D.M.
That's the bad thing about doing it over cat5, is there is no support if it's not working properly. I would go ahead and run rg-6 or use rg-59 (if it's already in the home) and run them to the node for the joeys, that way it gets cat5 out of the way. The other thing would be to try a different router. that particular router I don't think is designed to handle that kind of data and I can see it overheating easily. Most consumer grade routers can not handle the amount of data that the hopper system would send down the pipe on a consistent basis. You would need to look into a more enterprise grade router and will cost much much more. Then it would run into if it's more cost effective to run coax or use an enterprise grade router.

Even though cisco owns linksys, the linksys brand is the consumer line. I would look into an actual cisco router.
 

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