The Orville on Fox

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  1. Jimbo

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  2. Jimbo

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    I have an easy way to resolve that ... go to the normal FULL amount of episodes like Most shows do.
     
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    I certainly hope thats not the plan ....

    They WILL lose a bunch of viewers if thats the case ...
    I'm sure they lost viewers last year due to the long break and more will leave this time.
     
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    Split should have been Skip. :D
     
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    I doubt it will be. If it's a 13 ep. order again, they'll run it the same months as before.
     
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    Not starting till the new year is just dumb.
     
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    Frankly I’m tired of this 10 to 13 episode BS for programs. Bring back the good old days of 23 episode seasons.
     
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    They've basically priced themselves out of doing that anymore. When episodes cost multiple MILLIONS of dollars each, they have to be able to make a profit. Some tv shows, the actors alone are paid a million plus per episode. It's ridiculous.

    I heard each episode of Star Trek: Discovery is $10 million EACH. That's probably more than ST TOS cost for the entire 3 years.
     
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    That's the ridiculous part. Technology and filming are so much more advanced now, compared to back in the 1980s and 1990s. It should be easier, faster and cheaper to produce episodes.

    On top of that, most dramas and sitcoms today still get full 20-26 episode season orders. Yes, sci-fi requires more time because of rendering the visual effects, but again, we're talking a 30-year leap in technological advances. If TNG was able to get away with 26 eps every single year, then they should easily be able to hit at least 20 with Orville, Lost in Space, Expanse, Dark Matter, Stargate, etc.

    Enterprise was reported to have cost around $2-3 million per episode, except for the pilot. I believe Dark Matter was the same as well. I think the networks just aren't willing to fork over the money for sci-fi or VFX-heavy shows, so they order half the number of episodes to cut the total cost in half.
     
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    I posted this is in the Discovery thread, but it's true. Every single episode of Season 2 was $10 million, and yet somehow, even with that much money, they STILL went overbudget, because of all the re-shoots.

    Imagine getting paid millions of dollars just to pretend to be someone you're not. Actors are way overpaid. Network executives pocket a large chunk of the money for themselves. And the end result is a mediocre-to-poor production for the fans and viewers.

    TOS I think was around $200,000 an episode (close to $1.5 million in 2013 if you account for inflation).
     
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    Its the American version of Dr who..10 episodes every 2 years or so

    Sent from my SM-G950U using the SatelliteGuys app!
     
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    I like 13 episode seasons, means a lot less filler.
     
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    Quality over quantity.
     
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    I'm actually fine with the short seasons. I have less time than I had before and I have a few shows that when they built up on the DVR with too many unwatched episodes I just deleted thinking I would never get through them all.
     
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    A filler like Jaloga?
    Quality like Primal Urges?
     
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    Same here, I've dropped a few recently due to the number of episodes that built up.
     
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    Please continue, I'm curious where this is going.
     
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    This season of The Orville proves that wrong.
     
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    I don't know, there have been some very good episodes as well as the typical filler episodes ....
    Probably more Good ones this year than last .... once we got past the first 3 or 4.
     
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    There would have been a lot more filler if there were 22 episodes. That's why I said "a lot less filler".
     

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