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Season 1 was from September 2017 to December 2017. (Renewed November 2017)
Season 2 was from January 2019 to April 2019 (technically December 30, but that's basically 2019).

So yeah, essentially 1 year and 4 months between season premieres (1 year, 2 months if you count from the renewal date). If FOX had renewed it back in Feb/March, then I could see them gearing up for a Jan 2020 premiere, but even if they get the renewal in May, then it puts them at about July 2020, and it would be odd airing it during the summer, which would mean they'd push it back to September 2020 at the minimum.
I have an easy way to resolve that ... go to the normal FULL amount of episodes like Most shows do.
 
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Season 1 was from September 2017 to December 2017. (Renewed November 2017)
Season 2 was from January 2019 to April 2019 (technically December 30, but that's basically 2019).

So yeah, essentially 1 year and 4 months between season premieres (1 year, 2 months if you count from the renewal date). If FOX had renewed it back in Feb/March, then I could see them gearing up for a Jan 2020 premiere, but even if they get the renewal in May, then it puts them at about July 2020, and it would be odd airing it during the summer, which would mean they'd push it back to September 2020 at the minimum.
I certainly hope thats not the plan ....

They WILL lose a bunch of viewers if thats the case ...
I'm sure they lost viewers last year due to the long break and more will leave this time.
 

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Frankly I’m tired of this 10 to 13 episode BS for programs. Bring back the good old days of 23 episode seasons.
They've basically priced themselves out of doing that anymore. When episodes cost multiple MILLIONS of dollars each, they have to be able to make a profit. Some tv shows, the actors alone are paid a million plus per episode. It's ridiculous.

I heard each episode of Star Trek: Discovery is $10 million EACH. That's probably more than ST TOS cost for the entire 3 years.
 
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Frankly I’m tired of this 10 to 13 episode BS for programs. Bring back the good old days of 23 episode seasons.
That's the ridiculous part. Technology and filming are so much more advanced now, compared to back in the 1980s and 1990s. It should be easier, faster and cheaper to produce episodes.

On top of that, most dramas and sitcoms today still get full 20-26 episode season orders. Yes, sci-fi requires more time because of rendering the visual effects, but again, we're talking a 30-year leap in technological advances. If TNG was able to get away with 26 eps every single year, then they should easily be able to hit at least 20 with Orville, Lost in Space, Expanse, Dark Matter, Stargate, etc.

Enterprise was reported to have cost around $2-3 million per episode, except for the pilot. I believe Dark Matter was the same as well. I think the networks just aren't willing to fork over the money for sci-fi or VFX-heavy shows, so they order half the number of episodes to cut the total cost in half.
 
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They've basically priced themselves out of doing that anymore. When episodes cost multiple MILLIONS of dollars each, they have to be able to make a profit. Some tv shows, the actors alone are paid a million plus per episode. It's ridiculous.

I heard each episode of Star Trek: Discovery is $10 million EACH. That's probably more than ST TOS cost for the entire 3 years.
I posted this is in the Discovery thread, but it's true. Every single episode of Season 2 was $10 million, and yet somehow, even with that much money, they STILL went overbudget, because of all the re-shoots.

Imagine getting paid millions of dollars just to pretend to be someone you're not. Actors are way overpaid. Network executives pocket a large chunk of the money for themselves. And the end result is a mediocre-to-poor production for the fans and viewers.

TOS I think was around $200,000 an episode (close to $1.5 million in 2013 if you account for inflation).
 
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I'm actually fine with the short seasons. I have less time than I had before and I have a few shows that when they built up on the DVR with too many unwatched episodes I just deleted thinking I would never get through them all.
 
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I'm actually fine with the short seasons. I have less time than I had before and I have a few shows that when they built up on the DVR with too many unwatched episodes I just deleted thinking I would never get through them all.
Same here, I've dropped a few recently due to the number of episodes that built up.
 
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