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Finally got around to starting episode 2 this evening.

Its far to silly for me when it comes to space based sci fi.

I'll watch to the third as that's my general policy on new shows, but it would have to get different fast, which I don't expect before I'd commit any time to it.
 

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Finally got around to starting episode 2 this evening.

Its far to silly for me when it comes to space based sci fi.

I'll watch to the third as that's my general policy on new shows, but it would have to get different fast, which I don't expect before I'd commit any time to it.
It gets better..less silliness...actually quite serious in the last episode
 
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Finally got around to starting episode 2 this evening.

Its far to silly for me when it comes to space based sci fi.

I'll watch to the third as that's my general policy on new shows, but it would have to get different fast, which I don't expect before I'd commit any time to it.
Did you see the movie Galaxy Quest? That was a surprisingly good movie but was silly at times. That's what made it so good rather than taking itself too seriously. This show is along those lines and Juan is right it loses a little of the being funny in the last couple of episodes. But it is always going to have the throw away jokes like when the Captain tells a kid asking to many question to "go play in traffic" ......
 
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It really does feel like Star Trek these last two episodes (to me anyway). And that isn't a bad thing at all. I'm enjoying it.
Fun fact. The VFX team on Orville comprises some of the same people who worked on the VFX for the previous Star Trek series. That's why there are no lens flares; and the warp graphics, space combat and camera movements/panning of the ships is slow and smooth, exactly like what you see on Voyager and Enterprise.

Meanwhile, Spin VFX and Pixomondo are doing the VFX for Star Trek Discovery, under advisement from Kurtzman (ergo, Abrams' movie-style), which is why the warp graphics are a complete disaster, the space battles have the camera moving around at 60 mph all over the place, and the design/lighting of the ships' exteriors makes it hard to discern who's getting hit and what ship is firing on whom.

I mean, when you look at fleet space battles for example, DS9 is the perfect example of how to do it properly. Regardless of whether you like DS9's story or not, watch "The Way of The Warrior - Part 2" or any of the post-Season 4 episodes with the Federation and Jem'Hadar armadas fighting each other. Smooth camera movements, a clear distinction between the good guys' ships and the bad guys' ships, and brightly-colored weapons effects, indicating who's shooting at who. That's how you do it. Not the way Abrams and Kurtzman are doing it with the reboot movies and Discovery.
 

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Right you are. This is why I like time travel stories; it exercises the brain. One thing that bothers me about time travel into the past is not just the logical paradoxes, but what I call a "freestanding time loop". This is a time travel story where events are logically consistent, but there's no way for the loop to get started in the first place. Now when I was younger and could still remember things, I could have listed the number of stories I read with freestanding time loops. Alas, now I'm older and haven't thought about them again until now. The memory engrams are gone. :crying
OK, I just watched another program featuring a freestanding time loop. It's the movie Arrival. I saw no logical contradictions, but I don't see how it got started in the first place.
 

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OK, I just watched another program featuring a freestanding time loop. It's the movie Arrival. I saw no logical contradictions, but I don't see how it got started in the first place.
Try Heinlein's short story "All You Zombies" from the 1940s. He doesn't explain it either.
 
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Try Heinlein's short story "All You Zombies" from the 1940s. He doesn't explain it either.
Well, I'll be blessed. A Heinlein story I haven't read yet. :(

Edited to add: Now I know what others were saying above. I read that short story and it gave me a headache!
 
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10/26/17 may be the best yet.
This episode may have been the most serious and thought-provoking one yet. As a society, people judge books by their covers every day, from the way you dress, to the way you look, to what you do and even what you don't do. But to go as far as having a legal system based solely on people's first impressions... I mean, you saw the girl give the 2 anthropologists a down-vote just based on the way they looked, without even taking the time to consider their side of the story.

It's so relevant to the way people act today, but imagine going further and having these votes be permanently associated with you for your whole life, and then actually leading to punishment or even death... kind of puts in perspective what happens to a society that's overly-obsessed with social media, peer pressure and the lack of ability to think for themselves. Draws in the parallels of what we're encountering on an everyday basis.

And CBS thinks Discovery tackles more relevant and topical issues. I swear, if The Orville doesn't get a second season, there may very well be riots and pitchforks showing up at FOX's headquarters.
 

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This episode may have been the most serious and thought-provoking one yet. As a society, people judge books by their covers every day, from the way you dress, to the way you look, to what you do and even what you don't do. But to go as far as having a legal system based solely on people's first impressions... I mean, you saw the girl give the 2 anthropologists a down-vote just based on the way they looked, without even taking the time to consider their side of the story.

It's so relevant to the way people act today, but imagine going further and having these votes be permanently associated with you for your whole life, and then actually leading to punishment or even death... kind of puts in perspective what happens to a society that's overly-obsessed with social media, peer pressure and the lack of ability to think for themselves. Draws in the parallels of what we're encountering on an everyday basis.
Finally, some real Trek! :)
 

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Anyone want to bet that someone will have a WORKING Down-vote/Up-vote badge ready before the next Sci-Fi convention? Cosplay just got a whole lot easier. All you'll need is a trapezoid case for your cell phone and one of those badges. I'm actually surprised that the good stories keep coming since Seth seems to be writing them all. It really shows that Seth is a BIG fan of Star Trek, specifically '90s Trek. This last episode, Majority Rule, is an almost direct take from a Black Mirror season 3 episode, Nosedive, I think. In that episode, the alternate Earth society was based on popularity on social media and the people used a Facebook-like phone app to like/dislike something about that person. Nothing as serious as a lobotomy but getting too low a score resulted in less social/status mobility.
 
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